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Gen2 OBD2 app review

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Technical Discussion' started by mr_guy_mann, Apr 25, 2022.

  1. Tombukt2

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    So the Mark 8 has no issue leading the brakes? Those are like in the 288 range now if you shop around That's good to know the tablet thingy format makes it much more conducive to this kind of work lugging around the flip up laptop is very cumbersome
     
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    Just throwing one more in there- Autel 2500E, which was sold as a newer/better version of the AP200. $68 this week from Amazon.

    Uses the same app. Not clear to me what is better about it, but it is helping me with a problem in our car.
     
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    Autel has the AP2500 and the AP2500E. I do not see any difference between the two.

    So, the adcopy indicates that the "upgrade" is that it can handle CAN FD (flexible data rate). That makes it compatible with some newer cars.

    Otherwise it sounds pretty much the same as the AP200 - all system scan, codes & data, "free" for 1 brand but subscription for any others.

    The AP2500 has fewer service functions than the AP200, but includes a (EV - hybrid) HV battery diagnostics function. Sounds kinda like Dr Prius but don't know any details.

    Posted via the PriusChat mobile app.
     
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    I recently needed to update my kit and got one of those 2500E rigs. It worked perfectly for my purposes. I'll be curious to play with the HV diagnostic thingy, just to see what they've done. Let me know if you want to compare notes.

    I'm not quite sure I understand the "1 brand lifetime access" deal. Does that mean that if I want similar access to a non-Toyota car I need to go buy a second device? I surely wouldn't start a subscription due to the infrequency of my needs, but I'd be open to a second one-time purchase cost.
     
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    Yes, you would either need an annual subscription for a second car brand, or I would think that a second device (for a second brand) should work.

    Posted via the PriusChat mobile app.
     
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    So like with the autel tablet type scanners like version 7 and up . I shouldn't need a subscription for my old car only things moving forward past the scanners capability right so in other words when you take it down off the wall and out of the box up until it's manufacture date it's pretty much ready to go moving forward from that date you will need a subscription to I guess this company to get their updates for their scanner to be forward compatible which I would care nothing about that I'm only interested in my generation twos maybe a generation 3 every so on to pronounce it dead and take it away from my shop type of thing and that sort of stuff Old sienna vans all that nothing new I don't care about any Prius primes or plug in hybrids that they have or any of that I don't really mess with that stuff so I wouldn't need a subscription right because the model of the scanner I'm buying was made in like 2021 or two so it should be good to 2021 or 2022 moving forward is where the problem is Is this some kind of correct thinking. Because my battery buddy he doesn't have a subscription to anything He's got a model 8 I believe or series 8 a u t e l m x series scan tool It's like an 8-in tablet It's red like the ones I see on the marketplace and he can bleed brakes and do everything has no subscriptions to anything He bought this thing like I'm going to buy it right offline from somebody out of the box semi used and he's had to buy nothing but he's like me as primarily working on generation twos and 2016 and back cars which this thing is made in 2021 or two so those should be covered
     
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    Can someone confirm if the Autel 2500e can do the full brake bleed procedure including the Linear Solenoid Valve reset? I'd prefer one of these scantools as I'm not interested in the bootleg Techstream option. If the Autel is not capable, are there any other sub $200 scantools that are capable of the full brake bleed procedure?
     
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    Short and sweet: Just a retired 1st time owner of a base Gen II almost old enough to drink. I’ve had her for 5 years and loved her so much that I took the deep dive for a new OEM traction battery and all is well. My question is to do with when, where, what and how to check basic diy fluid levels what i need to know to not add the wrong thing in the wrong hole and basic pm of filters and sensors. I do not own a OBDII scanner but I’m open to anything. I want to take a trip to Fla from Pa without giving Toyota money to do what I can do. Up to and including tipping off a/c refrigerant etc. Question I am a iOS guy so where is my money best spent? In a complete tool reader or a OBDII PLUG IN and WiFi or wired.
     
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    I like the results I'm getting from an Autel AP2500E diagnostic scanner combined with my iPhone.

    You can get PDFs of the owners manual and the quick reference cards from the Toyota website. They are useful guides for fluid maintenance, breakdown/tire change instructions etc.

    Good luck!
     
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    i replaced my hybrid modules on my 06 prius and Im values getting red triangle, code P0AE0 negative showing high values?? What did I do wrong
     
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    First, thanks for finding that the AP2500 doesn't support as many service functions as the AP200. I want to also thank you for starting this thread and adding to it your experience and knowledge.
    I took a look today at the AP2500 on bay, zon and the autel site. 59 59 and 99 respectively. There is another diff between the ap200 in that the 2500 uses a new app MaxiAP as seen on the autel site comparing the two. The subscription thing at 21 an change per year for a different brands car support on the one device almost makes it worth buying another adapter for a second car of a different brand. I found that a second car of the same brand is also free lifetime. So there is that anyways. I haven't seen any differences between the AP2500 and AP2500E yet either so far, I'm wondering if the apps ID reg. available in both the app and / or online has anything to do with the name and or price diff when purchased through the Autel shop.

    More info to read if interested Autel MaxiAP 2500E
    Autel MaxiAP AP2500E Diagnostic/Service Scan Tool
     
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    First hats off to you guyman for taking on such an ambitious project. Lots of good information. As I read through the thread several comments came to mind.

    I own and have used the OBDLink M+
    This adapter will interface with both Doctor Prius and Hybrid Assistant.
    The special features within Doctor Prius for disabling the seat belt and reverse beeper only works on Gen III and up.
    The OBDLink M+ software will allow for input of user defined PID's, has freeze frame function, will record and export log files to a CVS or PDF file. It has no bi-directional controls. A download, for enhanced features, is included in the initial purchase price. I would assume the additional downloads for other makes would incur additional expense.
    I found support to be lacking and documentation inadequate. The developers will respond to e-mail requests, but I suspect it's a salesperson at the other end and not a real technical advisor. Is OBD Link M+ worth the purchase price? (on Amazon the cost of OBDLink M+ is more than the ThinkDiag) Not if the features detailed in this thread for the ThinkDiag are correct. For me it's a no brainer since I already own the OBDLink M+ and can use it with the Android apps. I plan to purchase the ThinkDaig use it for its features and the OBDLink M+ for compatibility with other apps.
     
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    Do you need a second phone to use the second device? I would assume that the cell phone app and not the device holds the "subscription for this car type" information. If so, how would it switch between devices?
     
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    Well, the Autel app has a VCI manager in the account settings. Assuming that it's similar to the ThinkCar app, then you should be able to select between different devices (if more than one is attached to your account).

    You have to login to your account periodically when starting the app - so everything is "attached" to the account, not the app or phone.

    Posted via the PriusChat mobile app.
     
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    It's now more than two years later, is this still the top choice for a Gen 2 Prius? Given your enthusiastic review, I was surprised to see so little love for this device on Amazon.

    Also, the app is poorly rated in the Apple app store. Has something changed since 2022?
     
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    Is there any reason you couldn't just leave it in there?
     
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    it can make the car do funny things sometimes.

    hold off on the autel, they are having some issues. there's a current thread:

    autelap-200-fail.250635

    might be fixed now, idk. @mr_guy_mann might
     
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    Have you used it and did you like it?
     
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    No, I’m just going by what I read here