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Ford & GM adopt the Tesla Supercharger network standard (NACS).

Discussion in 'EV (Electric Vehicle) Discussion' started by Zythryn, Jun 9, 2023.

  1. Isaac Zachary

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    Well, I think GM won't let too many be there. They're killing the current Bolt, so there's a huge chance people like me will not be able to get a Bolt for a while. We'll probably have to wait and see if I can get one when the next gen Bolt comes out, if it still costs around what it does now, if there's still the federal and state tax incentives by then, and if I still make the same amount of money I do now or not. The next gen Bolt will very likely have faster charging.
     
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    China is starting to make EVs in Mexico nearer your price point. How they are treated in the US and in your state for tax purposes and you could afford one of these smaller and limited range EVs. Supposed to be high quality.
     
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    Once they're all out there, I'll go for the pick of the litter. ;)
     
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    Well, it's Lucid turn to jump in the NACS bandwagon in 2025 and previously built vehicles will use an adapter to access Superchargers.

    https://ir.lucidmotors.com/news-releases/news-release-details/lucid-adopt-north-american-charging-standard-nacs-bringing

    via u/raptorman556:

    That brings the list of NACS adopters (with their EV market share through the first 9 months of this year) to:

    Tesla - 56.5%
    Hyundai-Kia - 7.8%
    GM - 6.4%
    Ford - 5.3%
    Rivian - 4.2%
    BMW Group - 3.8%
    Mercedes - 3.4%
    Nissan - 1.8%
    Volvo - 1.3%
    Polestar - 1.0%
    Toyota Group - 1.0%
    Subaru - 0.7%
    Lucid - 0.5%
    Fisker - 0.1%
    Jaguar - 0.0%
    Honda - 0

    With VWG being the left out so far (about 5%) this means that in 2025, the usage of the Superchargers could potentially double.
     
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    Then all of the Amazon delivery EV truck/vans
    LOL
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    godd thing they keep adding more
     
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    (sigh)
    .... and i just received my tesla to J-plug adapter
    oh well - that's cheaper than waiting to buy a new car with the Tesla charge port
     
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    Mazda and Stelantis are the two big one left I believe.
     
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    Mazda isn't that big, and I think they will follow Toyota.
     
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    I sure hope Stelantis caves before their 2025 Ramcharger 100 miles of EV range / quick charging plug-in pick-up comes out. Saving the pennies in the interim.
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    Curious, the higher non-Tesla cost almost looks like the higher relative cost I've paid for CCS-1 ChargePoint kWh. This suggests an interesting experiment since the Athens EA station and SuperChargers are so close:
    • kWh and cost for my Tesla Model 3 to drive to and charge in Athens, EA station
    • kWh and cost for my Tesla Model 3 to drive to and charge in Athens, SuperCharger station
    • kWh and cost for my BMW i3-REx to EV drive to and charge in Athens, EA station
    Bob Wilson
     
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    Nope, it is not basically all. Supposedly, a third of the V3 are not available. One on my route up north that just opened last fall... V3 with 250kW service... is not listed for NACS. It would be awesome if that location had already proven popular enough to get a V4 upgrade.