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... Greta Thundberg liberals, gone berserk ~

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  1. asjoseph

    asjoseph Samuel, '04 Ruthiemobile

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    Ah well, might just as well let the planet burn, I won’t be around to see it
     
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    I wonder if what ZeroHedge is talking about there might be this:

    End of Life Vehicles Regulation - details of the proposal - European Commission

    which says

    As in other cases, these criteria are first targeting illegal operators who, for example, use stolen cars, or pile up old used cars, for the purposes of smuggling spare parts or used cars without proper identification. It is not to hinder legal activities by private owners or hobbyists of vintage cars. If a car needs a repair, any part may be changed as long as the vehicle is fit to pass the roadworthiness inspections and remains authorised to operate on the EU roads. In particular, the proposed Regulation does not prohibit the repair or replacement of the engine, gearbox, shell or chassis assembly of a vehicle.​
     
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    When the first few words are “ev lunacy” it’s going to be a ride of opinionated misinformation.
     
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    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    It's like the news about the EU allowing insect ingredients in food. The outraged reports missed, or ignored, basic details of the new policy.
     
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    Have you been thinking gravesites? Location might be everything. You won’t see, but be around.

    What about a cemetery that is only 100 feet above sea level? Ok? The choice seems to be under water, or on land. It would be wise to study plate tectonics for long range planning. I am not sold on the 100 feet is enough yet.
     
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    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    Caskets float. Rising water tables are known to push them out of the ground.
     
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    In my past experience Europe sometimes is a little less adversarial. So the public sometimes views these mandates from on high as semi-humorous blue sky aspirational goals, which will be modified if needed. In the USA we are less tolerant of blue sky, in part because the goals are set as hard mandates must be followed come hell or high water. Example was cellulosic ethanol mandate which was changed to corn ethanol mandate and mandated x-million gallons per year, based on 2006 gasoline production.. But gaso demand went down and it no longer made sense to put in x-million gallons of ethanol in. The Left and ethanol lobby refused to accept reality and still fight tooth and nail every year (last I knew) claiming BigOil needs to get out of the way and let ethanol go to 25% in gaso if needed to meet the mandate. As far as I know we still have the 2006 mandate. Don't know what happens in the EV scenario where less and less gaso used, but the 2006 mandate to use x-megatons of ethanol is still in force. But I have a good idea. Hic! Hic!
     
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    So I checked their reference:

    Cars experiencing failures in major components such as engines, transmissions, brakes, or steering, and deemed old (potentially around 15 years), will fall under this category. Once labelled as residual, these vehicles would be barred from undergoing significant repairs and would likely be scrapped.​

    jThe "brakes, or steering" are safety issue and as such, should be repaired. As for engines and transmissions . . . I have an EV and PHEV, no transmission. The EV has no engine. This speculated, proposed rule may encourage some owners to learn engine and transmission rebuilding skills but parts ... will be another economic headwind.

    Father Time will take car of the older cars.

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    cream nation
     
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    Whatever thing the drive axles stick out of, I'd still be inclined to call a transmission, certainly in the PHEV. If the EV has nothing but direct pancake motors at each wheel, I could maybe see saying "no transmission".

    Still, if the operative language is "major components such as engines, transmissions, ...', I'd maintain the EV and PHEV certainly have components of similar major-ness.
     
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    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    Sky burial. Your useful compounds won't go up it smoke.

    Can't really say it is supported by the left. Plenty there don't. The support is more the producers, agribusiness, and the regions that benefit from their activity, regardless of political affiliation.
    Who is driving our ethanol policy? And why does it matter? – The Hill
    A Voter Survey Finds Support for Ethanol, Opposition to State Electric Vehicle Mandates

    A bike chain is a transmission.

    There is also a repair cost vs car value factor to consider by the policy. Frankencars don't get a pass, but it does have exceptions for historical cars. This is just a codification of what leads most people to scrapping a car. The OP news is just people looking to be outraged by something.
     
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    That takes the shopping experience for gravesites away.
     
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    Goal is something to strive for, mandate is a rule passed by the rule makers.
     
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    Anybody figure out how G Thunberg or berserk liberals fit it?

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    We rarely talk about sky burials here. One needs to be rather high in Buddhism rank to qualify for that. One does not just arrive in Lhasa and say "haul me up to the hills"
     
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    covid transmission is highly efficient
     
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    Cremation anyone?

    My second choice is burial, naked corpse, face down, below ground water here:
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    Salt River Canyon in northwestern Oklahoma: the canyon walls are the Blaine Formation from which much gypsum is produced. Speculation, the hard and soft parts would be replaced by gypsum for the Cockroach archeologists.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    Gretta isn't a kid anymore, so the climate Industrial Complex can no longer use her as a human shield.
    One should wish that she would shake off her past child abuse and go on to lead a quiet and productive life.
    Since in her brief time as a legal adult she's been neither, she can be charged as an adult for any civil disobedience she engages in.

    SO...
    People "being around" after they die is an interesting fiction.
    If one wishes to preserve their husk options are available.
    "Some people say" that's what they did with Lenin's body.
    I instructed my sweet spouse to just have me cremated and my ashes shot from the torpedo tube of a USN submarine.
    Submariners BEING submariners I would as likely 'exit the boat' through the TDU or a sanitary tank but my remains would wind up in the same place :D
    REGARDLESS or irregardless (the latter being a non-standard word.)
    This began a rather enthusiastic family discussion of our so-called 'final plans.'
    We agreed to disagree on what happens to the garbage we leave behind and settled for some agreed-upon details.
    I didn't have much - er - 'skin in the game' because....
    I'M NOT GOING TO BE HERE!!!
    Whether you're a person of faith or you're a devotee of the "Accidental Universe Theory" this is sort of 'how dying works.'

    My final plans:
    Simple, brief sunset service at our church.
    Military honours if they are still legal and it's convenient, to allow reservists to snag some retirement points.
    Funeral prep by way of biodegradable embalming.
    Plain wooden casket built by semi-local monks.
    If closed casket: Birthday Suit.
    If open casket: Choker White top over bright pink or aqua swimming trunks.
    I prefer a vault because I know what vaults are for - and it has little to do with hydrology or preserving a casket - but rather it's to deny job security for a church cemetery maintenance committee.
    HOWEVER (comma!) since southerners seem to eschew them I'm flexible on this point.....because.....
    I'M NOT GOING TO BE HERE!!!

    Water and bugs will do what water and bugs do, so loooooong before we have ANOTHER inland sea, or the earth in engulfed in flames or drowned by water - very little will remain of my 'mortal remains.'

    This is one truism that Science and Religion agree upon.

    A Basic Instruction Manual puts it thusly:

    .....In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.
     
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    Who here is wearing a bear shirt?
     
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    Won't all humans - even left wing liberals- eventually decompose into fossil fuels and release methane as they decompose?
     
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