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2024 Toyota bZ4X brings a few changes

Discussion in 'Toyota Hybrids and EVs' started by drash, Jan 10, 2024.

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    2024 Toyota bZ4X: Engineered for Electrifying Exhilaration - Toyota USA Newsroom

    Toyota ditched the 6.6 kW onboard charger for a maximum 7.6 kW charger and following Lexus, the included EVSE is now dual-voltage being compatible with 110 and 240V. The article did not exactly state how this is being done or what the 240V plug is compatible with whether it is a 6-30 or 14-50. Since Toyota went with the 7.6 kW charger I'd assume it would be a 14-50 plug, then probably add a 14-50R to 5-15P adapter. We at PriusChat already knew the EVSE worked at both 110V and 240V, so adding the right plug plus an adapter was all Toyota had to do. People looking at getting an L2 charger installed, surprise, now all you need is an outlet. Toyota still claims the car will take the same 9.5 hours as the 2023 MY bZ4X to charge from low level battery light to 100%, but calculations suggest this will only take 8.25 hours or they increased the net kWh to over 72 kWh from 62.7 kWh (using 6.6 kW times 9.5 hours for 2023 MY). I'd assume the net kWh remains unchanged since the 71.4 kWh battery is a bit too small. Maybe there is a combination of larger net kWh and a slowdown upon reaching a new upper limit. Some reviewers claimed the actual net kWh was in the high 50's but this was via DC charging which may have been throttled via software.

    Toyota also claimed to have fixed the DC cold weather charging issue by adding a water-to-water heat exchanger and heating adjustment valve to increase battery temperature. This is among the changes that decrease the DC charging times in cold weather. I'm assuming some of these changes are software as well. DC charging is now listed as 150 kW for both the FWD (71.4 kWh PPES battery) and AWD (72.8 kWh CATL battery) version. Previous AWD (72.8 kWh CATL battery) versions topped out at 100 kW. The 2023 MY AWD took about an hour to go from 20 to 80%, so hopefully the additions decreased that charge time to 30 minutes.

    The XLE trim gets the 8-way power driver seat as standard as well as the power rear lift gate. Limited edition gets Advanced Park as standard. Toyota continues with a year of complimentary EVgo DC charging for new owners.
     
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    This is a hilarious post. Tesla has had a dual portable charger for over a decade now. I still have our original. Works great (long after selling the Model S) at 40 kw.
    Even so, glad to hear Toyota is welcoming in the 21st century.
     
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    have they lowered the price? i can get a model y for 36k
     
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    Huh, the closest price for a Tesla Model Y here is $43,990 minus the $7,500 leaves $36,490 for a rear wheel drive in gray only plus destination and order fee of $1,640. Prices on the 2024 bZ4X went up.

    Model and Trim 2023 MY MSRP 2024 MY MSRP DPH fee
    1 bZ4X FWD XLE $42000 $43070 $1350
    2 bZ4X AWD XLE $44080 $45150 $1350
    3 bZ4X FWD Limited $46700 $47180 $1350
    4 bZ4X AWD Limited $48780 $49260 $1350


    Toyota is now offering a $7,500 lease cash offer plus another $2,500 off on remaining 2023 MY. All of the dealers around here have that. 2024 Model Years haven't appeared so no reporting what the incentives will be on that. This is for info only so I'll leave it to you to decide what the better buy is. Sorry, I personally am not in the market or giving purchasing recommendations - just facts.
     
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    we get another $3,500. in ma. applies to all ev's iirc.
     
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    the problem with toyota (and all other ev makers) is that there are no base models on the lots, everything is loaded.
    at least you can order a tesla, and get it in a reasonable amount of time
     
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    Outstanding (y). We get another $2,000 off from New York State. Not sure about the 2024 MY bZ4X but if the incentive didn't change then both the Model Y and 2024 bZ4X get an additional $500 off since the EV limit is $42,000.
     
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    True. Around here only AWD bZ4X models are sold and all come with a minimum of the XLE or Limited Weather package. The XLE Weather package is quite useful around here as you get the heated steering wheel and heated rear seats for $500. Course Florida residents could care less, ;). I heard you could order base models from places like Costco but haven't tried them or if they even offer the same incentives.
     
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    i actually like the bz4x and considered one. but dealers weren't negotiating, and it was hard to turn down a very well equipped 2023 bolt euv for $22,500.
    i figure it's a cheap way to get in the game, andi'll learn a lot about gm and ev's in general over a few years.
    it's a great car so far, but i don't trust the reliability compared to toyota.
     
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    :LOL: Sound a little like me. Always had a fondness for the BMW i3, but not $50,000+ worth. I still peruse the used i3 market to see if I can grab a cheap one. I like the current Toyota incentive dynamic but as usual is terrible timing for me at the moment. I'll take my time and see what comes up. May even go back to a PHEV but not the Prius Prime.
     
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    I was looking at ford escape phev’s, then someone warned me away from the engine