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2024 Prius Prime xse Premium 19" spare tire solutions

Discussion in 'Gen 5 Prius Main Forum' started by flyboy09, Dec 28, 2023.

  1. flyboy09

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    I have searched many threads but can not seem to find an affordable solution for a spare donut or tire. seems to be some information for the 17" tire but not the 19" tire. Prius Prime arriving within 28 days. Thanks
     
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    It's a sad day when you're buying a brand new car and can't find a spare tire... I'd suggest doing a search based on the bolt pattern for the wheel, not the make and model of the car. There's lots of cars with the same bolt pattern as this car.
     
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    You could really end up screwed if this is all you consider. Some cars have major offset for large disc brake calipers for example
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    If you're looking for a donut, there's no difference between the spares for the 17" or 19" wheel. Anything that works for one will work for the other. Heck, the official spare from Toyota is a 16".

    Maybe you should tell us what you mean by an affordable solution. $50, $100, $150, $200?

    A 100% official, brand new setup would be:

    Wheel: 42611-21280 - $70.64
    Wheel | Part #4261121280 | Toyota Auto Parts

    Tool Kit: 09105-47020 - $87.45
    Box Set, Jack

    Tire: T145/90D16 - $99.41
    https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Yokohama&tireModel=Y870B&partnum=49MD6YOTEMP&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes

    Total: $257.50 + tax + tire mounting

    There's your starting point. Maybe you already have a spare tool kit that would work. You might be able to use eBay, salvage yards, or other sources to cut down prices on some of the parts. You're looking for a wheel that's 16" or greater in diameter and 4"-5" wide with a bolt pattern of 5x114.3. You want a center bore size of 60.1mm if you can get it, or you can go bigger if you're willing to use a hubcentric ring; you can't go smaller than 60.1mm, however. With the tire, you're looking for an overall diameter of anywhere from 25.9" to 27.5", and a width of 135 or greater. Offset is 40mm on a full Prius wheel(17x6.5 & 19x6.5), but I'm not sure how much of a factor it would be on a compact spare.

    The Toyota C-HR and the Lexus UX 200/250/h all use the exact same spare wheel/tire combination as the gen5 Prius, so you could try to find a used one of those(the 2011-15 Scion tC uses the same wheel but a different tire). I believe someone on here just recently went with a used spare wheel from a Kia Sportage, though they needed to use a hubcentric ring as the Kia uses something like a 66mm bore. I believe some of the Mazdas also use the 5x114.3 bolt pattern and have a 60.1 or larger bore.

    Acceptable compact spare tire sizes would be:
    16" - 145/90, 155/90
    17" - 135/90, 145/80, 155/80, 165/80
    18" - 135/80, 145/70, 145/80
    19" - 135/70, 155/70
    20" - 145/60, 145/65

    Wheel width:
    4" - 135, 145
    4.5" - 135, 145, 155
    5" - 135, 145, 155, 165


    If you go used, it's a good idea to find out the age of the tire. All tires should have a 4-digit date code stamped into the sidewall. First two digits are the week(out of 52) and the last two digits are the year. A tire manufactured Jan 1, 2024 would have a date code of 0124. With a spare, I tend to start getting nervous after seven years, and I wouldn't trust a spare after ten years. If buying used, I'd factor that into my calculations.

    Spares from previous Priuses won't work. The regular gen2-4 Priuses use a 5x100 bolt pattern, and, while the Prius v uses a 5x114.3 pattern, it also has a overall diameter of 24.4" which is on the small size.
     
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    Thanks for writing this up in detail @Hammersmith ! I have saved this for reference, as I will be shopping for a spare solution soon for traveling, and try to avoid buying new from the dealer if possible… I already priced that out. o_O Good to know C-HR uses the same size. (y)
     
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    With the various Prius Gen, there’s usually (always?) been several from-the-factory wheel diameters, but their OD’s are invariably the same (well close enough), and one spare regardless of the stock tire.
     
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    Not sure if this has been shared, but this person is using a spare from a Prius V/+. I cannot see what size tyres the car has, but I think its a HEV not prime.



    This Japanese model, again HEV :( shows a full size spare and that car has 19's - should start at 3:11



    Not Primes I know, but may give some ideas?
     
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    I really hate that video. It's a sloppy job, the Prius v spare is too small, and there's a good chance that the tire on any Prius v(2012-17 in the US) has already reached the end of it's shelf life. It's an uninformed, lazy fix that has the potential to cause more issues than it solves.

    Again, it doesn't matter at all what wheels the car comes with. Both the 17"s and 19"s are effectively the same total diameter.

    There are a couple of us that have added spare tires to our cars the fully OEM way. I've (overly)documented my journey in the Maintenance & Troubleshooting subforum. That won't work for the Prime(not enough space under the cargo floor), but the actual wheel and tire are the same.
     
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    Well obviously... But my suggestion was about the best way to start, not how to finish.
     
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    So if Prime owners want to carry a spare they need to put it IN the cargo area, not underneath?

    Do you know what type of bolt (size / thread pitch) is used to hold down a spare? I just picked up a donut from a CHR for my LE on eBay. Haven't unboxed it yet but I'm pretty sure it didn't come with a hold down bolt. I assume that buying one from Toyota will cost many times what it will from a hardware / fastener store.
     
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    The Toyota hold-down bolt likely comes with a large plastic knob on top, so you can turn it without any tools. There's pictures in Owner's Manual, starting on page 496

    Toyota USA's parts site is totally hooped for about the last 6 months, which doesn't help.
     
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    Correct about the spare tire being IN the cargo area for Prime owners. LE owners also lack the needed depth with the stock foam storage dividers.

    As for the bolt:
    The correct one is 51931-10040 for $12.37.
    Carrier, Spare Wheel, RH

    However the problem is that the length of that bolt(called a carrier) is sized for the wheel to be on the foam pad. Without the pad, it's going to be a little too long. That being said, it might be cost effective to just buy the correct one and trim it with a grinder if needed. By the time you buy a bolt or threaded rod, some fender washers, nuts, and some type of knob, you're probably going to be approaching $10 in parts. Is another $2.50 worth all the time it's going to take you to piece something together that won't work as well? Just saying.

    But if you really want to, I'm guessing the thread is an M8, but that's just a guess based on the thinner studs for the AWD power connector being an M6. No promises, but I'll try and take my correct carrier to the hardware store and test the threads to confirm as well as getting a length measurement. Maybe yet tonight, maybe this weekend if I end up heading that way for something.

    edit: Oops. Just remembered I've got four winter tires sitting on top of my cargo floor right now. Won't be able to check until I get them installed middle of next week.
     
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    Why?

    Tire and Wheel
    $170.05 + mounting - Toyota & TireRack (free shipping for both)
    $413.75 - Modern Spare (including shipping and other BS fees)

    Tire, Wheel & Tools
    $257.50 + mounting - Toyota & TireRack
    $470.25 - Modern Spare

    How could anyone think Modern Spare could ever be a good deal? I think I could find a spare tire bag for less than the $250 difference.
     
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    you guys are fortunate to have tires and wheels and jack available. with the bolt, a wheel and tire are $1,000., and they don't make a jack, so you have to fuss around with a used s-10 from fleabay.
    but it can't be just any s-10, it has to be a certain model. very complicated.
     
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    Whoever told you a Bolt wheel/tire setup is $1k, they are lying to you.
     
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    I’ll bite: it’s more or less?
     
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    How much does a stock Toyota 19 inch wheel cost
     
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