Buying Gen 5 coming from 17' Prius Prime

Yes you're missing something because you lost me when you said the headrest was one inch from the headliner.

 

Wow... So grateful for this post... Toyota has been failing hard since your 2017 and its great to know that Gen5 has similar kinds of bad as post 2017 and that Gen2 Prius is still the greatest Non-EV car ever built for now and forever!

 

Have a look at Hyundai and Kia options... Based on what I'm reading, they've been working way harder in the past decade than Toyota and are poised to wipe out most of Toyota's market share in next couple-few years.

 

Obviously a HEV is going to give you far less EV than a PHEV. You chose to take a big backward PHEV->HEV step. HEV should be at least as good as the 2010 though.

There are two energy flow displays available, one on each screen.

Aside from that there is an "EV" (in a little car) indicator that lights up when the engine isn't running. (In G2 and maybe G3 this was the EV mode indicator - that's now a different light)

Outside temperature readout is in the top left corner of the meter.

Agree that the mpg information is annoying.

 

Just say no to Hyundai.

They've had numerous recalls for EV, battery packs, etc. And their latest is a recall for about 3.5 million engines which might combust on their own. Long term reliability is nowhere near Toyota (or Prius) levels.

Toyota is in no danger of being overtaken by Hyundai anytime soon. Or later.



SM-G981W ?

 

Haha, that sounds like my usual nightly nightmare in which I trade in the Turquoise Jewel (2021 Prius Prime Limited) for a Gen 5 come true.

I actually did have a nightmare once in which I traded in my silver 2020 Prius Prime XLE for a Tesla Model 3. I was very happy when I woke up.

First of all, I would never even consider trading down from a PHEV to HEV. I think that was a huge mistake on your part.

Other than that, it is typical to experience buyer's remorse. It is usually more intense when you buy a new house, and you may want to run back to your old house.

I think Gen 5 Prius is a great car, but so is my 2021 Prius Prime Limited. Mine also has a third rear seat and TSS 2.0 in addition to the 2017 features. Perhaps one day I will trade it in for a Gen 5 Prius Prime SE, but only if a very sweet deal arrives. I would certainly miss some of the Limited features I would forgo like Homelink with autodimming mirror, heads-up display, JBL, etc. The one that worries me the most is the lack of auto-on headlights, which I find to be an indispensable safety feature. I don't want the higher trims because of compromised BEV range and fuel economy. Of course, I would have a harder time fitting in the groceries in Gen 5 as well.

I am glad they took it back. Perhaps one day you could get a sweet deal on a Gen 5 Prius Prime.

 

Because Toyota wheels didn't get recalled due to risk of wheels falling off their new ev?
But that wasn't over a million cars though ........ right.

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/toyota-recalls-1-million-us-vehicles-over-sensor-that-could-short-circuit-2023-12-20/

& here .....

Toyota recalls more than 1.8 million RAV4 vehicles | CNN Business

Lexus is part of that too ...... not counting their risk of fires;

https://www.cars.com/articles/43000-toyota-lexus-vehicles-recalled-for-fire-risk-468992/

what do they say about throwing stones in glass houses? every manufacture has their inglorious moment in the sun -

so - Hyundai Kia GM Ford Stelantis AND Toyota all face the same demanding scrutiny as their competitors in quality - so it's pretty close to the same, modernly

one man's ceiling is another man's floor. Sorry for the bad experience. It doesn't work out for some but it does for others. If you like the rest of Toyota's Fleet go ahead and pick one of their hybrids .... but if you want something that fits your torso better - don't be afraid to check the competition. Like many Stealerships, the sales critter seems to have let you down - not able to show you all of the cars readouts & such. All too typical wherever you go.
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unfortunately for toyota, the new prius forced me into another brand after 20 years of prius.
it's a great car for those who've been waiting forever for something better looking, sporty and less 'practical'.
for those of us who always loved the quirky looks and practicality, it's a non starter.

 

Stop looking for a new toy. Your ‘17 Prime will serve you well for at least until the 2030 models are available, and then you will still be comparing all options to your wonderful ‘17.

 

Doesn't that depend on whether he's got over 120,000 miles or so on it? That's the kind of presumptuousness that I would be likely to indulge in.
Sometimes we decide our current rides' "look" is getting long in the tooth. Best to let each other decide when or if it's time to pull the trigger on new rides .... what ever works for e/of us.

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Keep us posted regardless of what ever your replacement will be!
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I am always impressed what a finished product the 17 was in it’s first year of an entirely new model. Your loyal sticking with dealer service probably helped out in the take back, unless it was in the contract?

 

Yes, some of us have been waiting since the G2 for this one. I had a total of 5 G2s, and I was at a bit of a loss as to what car to have next until I saw the G5. A fantastic return to form, after the boring G3 and regrettable G4 and pushing the G2 design a bit more in the direction I always wanted

 

They don't sell PHEVs and BEVs in Ohio because it is not a CAFE state?? How strange.

You are very close to other states, including New York, though. It should be an easy drive to go out of state and get one.

 

The steering wheel blocking the dash maybe cause by the wheel is pull too far out. I been driving my 2023 limit with steering wheel push closest to dash for almost three mouths now and never has an issue with the dash been block, narrow front view or A pillar blocking the view.

 

Because it's bullshit. First of all, it's CARB, not CAFE. CAFE are national standards; CARB standards were originated in California, though other states also follow them(currently a total of 19). Second, there are Primes for sale in Ohio right now. Not a lot, but they're there. There are Primes currently going to Beavercreek, Akron, Toledo, and Boardman. If you go out 250 miles from Toledo, you get 25 Primes currently in Toyota's inventory. It's absolutely true that CARB states are getting more, but Toyota is allocating at least some to dealership regions that want them(although it looks like the SE region is just as bad about PHEVs as always - but that's not on Toyota itself).

I'm not saying the poster is necessarily lying, but it's likely the dealership is lying and the poster didn't bother to double-check.