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One advantage to living in Texas

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  1. bisco

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    Now all that writing is done, what is the purpose of it?
    I now live in California, and this is where I will stay till the end, love it where I am. Those who left my area, which are few, now see their house they sold is double what it was when they left, like in three years. They can’t get back what they had. It’s a big beautiful state with a big economy.
     
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    Price of gas still going down. If I had one of their cards it would be $2.07 rather than $2.17.

     
  4. ETC(SS)

    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    Mostly people who do not live in either state.

    BT Dubbs.....
    Very soon there will be more Buc'ees outside Texasass than in.

    Gas at $2.31 locally.
     
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    Enjoy that gas price now, it's going up again once the mid east war kicks off.
     
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    rjparker Tu Humilde Sirviente

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    A little Cali jelly? I wouldn’t worry about it, you have better weather and roads.
     
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    Our roads are some of the worst in the nation, because our state officials squander the gas tax revenue. Weather, that's arguable..climate change is real here with much hotter summers and rainier winters (except for this one, since it's still 78 degrees out on Dec 7th).

    Not jealous of low gas prices, I get 52 mpg..
     
  8. bwilson4web

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    I'm getting 4 miles per kWh. Locally, $0.12/kWh.

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    So we're comparing your Tesla with a Hybrid Prius are we? I wouldn't say that's apples v oranges. I don't have to sit for a couple hours waiting to charge and drive coast to coast if needed without a care in the world because gasoline is everywhere.
     
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    Just comparing the cost per mile:
    • Not jealous of low gas prices, I get 52 mpg.
    • I'm getting 4 miles per kWh. Locally, $0.12/kWh.
    I've already done a round trip:
    • From Huntsville AL
    • Albuquerque NM
    • Las Vegas NV
    • Los Angles CA
    • Phoenix AZ
    • Strafford AZ
    • Vicksburg MS
    • Home Huntsville AL
    No real problem as I combined biology breaks with charging.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    Hybrids will always be the best go to, since gas fill ups are <5 mins and there is no line. It won't leave you "out of kilowatts" on the side of the road and the batteries don't cost $15k+ to replace. I mean, there are Tesla forums you can go jerk off on instead of being on a Prius forum. Touting lofty and imaginary mileage numbers really means nothing here considering the pros outweigh all the cons on a hybrid versus EV. The only advantage is you can go really fast, quickly and beat all the ICE cars in drag races..so kudos to that!
     
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    As a newcomer, be careful which long time experts here you choose to insult and pick a fight with. E.g. he has vastly more Prius experience than you are known to have, and has posted tons of test results here, for multiple Prii and subsequent vehicles.

    And no, his numbers are not "imaginary".
     
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    Are the locals still blaming Biden for those prices being that high? ;)
     
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    My last Prius, a 2017 Prius Prime, was traded in for my 2019 Tesla Model 3 Standard Range Plus, 5 years ago come March 26 and now it has 120,198 miles. I got $18.3 k trade-in which brought my out of pocket cost to $24,000.

    With 41F outside, my 80% battery range looks to be 205 miles at 100%. So my battery is (205 - 240) / 240 ~= -14.5% ... well within the expected degradation given the temperature. At 7:30 AM, the car will automatically heat the cabin and battery.

    For my 74th birthday on Monday, I'm headed 234 mile to a free room and free EV charging at the Horseshoe Casino in Tunica MS. Last Summer, I installed a CCS-1 adapter kit that adds access to a pair of CCS-1 chargers along the direct route. In Tuscumbia I'll pay ~$5 and get an espresso and bathroom break. The Byhalia charger, free for first hour, has a sandwich shop across the street. So I'm looking at ~$5 to travel 234 mi.

    Since October 2005, I've had three Prius, 2003, 2010, and 2017, and they were fine vehicles ... much better than our last ICE cars, 2001 Echo and others. What is seldom understood is the low cost per mile from TVA electricity rates and free public chargers. I don't have home solar ... yet.

    Bob Wilson

    ps. Two days ago, my software was upgraded to 2023.27.12 with significant improvement to Full Self Driving. The car will do the vast majority of the driving while I supervise and arrive good to go to the craps table.
     
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    It's not free.... YOU pay for it, with higher taxes. Higher prices of products.
     
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    those taxes also pay to subsidize oil. Pick your poison, as you pay for both - either way
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    wow - that's still ~ .75¢ less than us in the pacific NW. and when you think of how the worthless dollar continues to be devalued due to inflation, it really helps when they tinker w/ prices. Don't you just love how prices often seem to drop as elections near?
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    Many have absolutely no idea how that really affects them!
    It affects a lot more than just gas. Inflation and devaluation of the dollar is a way for the Government to access peoples 401k's etc reducing the net worth ( buying power) of those assets and thereby accessing that accumulated wealth to redistributed it through entitlements programs.

    Opinion: Beware of the hidden, insidious tax: inflation | Business Observer (businessobserverfl.com)

    The inflation tax is not only real, it’s massive | The Hill

    Inflation's surge and the impact on your 2023 taxes - Sol Schwartz (ssacpa.com)

    How Much Are We ‘Taxed’ by Surprise Inflation? (stlouisfed.org)
    "Conclusion
    The federal government is the largest nominal debtor in the economy. This means it is either the biggest winner or loser from every inflation shock. With the unprecedented positive inflation shock we have experienced over the last year, the federal government has come out as a big winner, with an inflation tax that amounts to around 3.3% of GDP, equivalent to a 6.5% tax on wealth held in Treasury securities."

    U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time (usdebtclock.org)
     
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    It is supply and demand, pure and simple. North America currently has a big local supply, demand is always down after summer and especially after Thanksgiving, the local Product Terminals fed by pipelines and in state refineries are full so SOME companies dump their gas rather than shutdown their refineries.

    Refineries can take weeks to restart and usually have problems when doing so. They reduce prices and take business from the competition. In the old days we would call this simple supply and demand behavior “gas wars”. Other companies still charge $2.75 right across the street.

    I have been in pipeline scheduling and transportation from a controls and IT standpoint so I have been there and done that.
     
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    If only you knew who I was to be able to challenge him. Maybe coming off so smug wasn't in his best interest considering all the brain energy he's expending in mileage savings and calculations only amount to loss in the end with an EV when it's time to change the battery.

    and mysterious strains of communicable diseases as well that may or may not prevent voting.
     
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    And yet, having justy returned from some foreign travel and seeing how much worse their currency has been devalued, I feel fortunate to be living under one of the strongest currencies on the planet.

    Smug contests usually don't work out well for either side.
     
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