2023 LE fwd mpg, what are you getting?

Nope!

 

Is this your first hybrid?

That's about what I was getting at first also. It takes a bit to get your groove with this car. It drives vastly different from the G4's.

 

You can get a really high mpg with any Prius on country roads. 80 mpg should not be surprising if you are driving 45 mph. I got 120 mpg a couple of times with my 2021 Prius Prime in freeway stop-and-go driving. The aerodynamic drag increases with the square of the speed; so, mpg and mpge take huge hits when you go faster.

 

70.21 calculated MPG's

Mission accomplished!

I won't be going for 75 on purpose. It will have to be a happy accident. It could be done, but likely not through the typical driving trips I take. You might even be able to hit 800 if you did it over 8, 100 mile city driving trips. Longer trips are better. Once the G5 is warmed up, it sips like a pro, killing the ICE instantly when you lift off the pedal.

 

nah i had a 2017, i think I was getting about the same initially but it actually dropped to 48 or so.

last few days my new ‘23 LE AWD dropped to 52 because I was idling around a bit more…kinda disappointing tbh, altho not unexpected considering the advertised numbers.

hmm..what do you do to get in the groove to maximize milage?

 

Just things like getting used to the sensitivity of the pedal, for acceleration to the top of the Eco band and no more, as well as finding "coast" (between Eco and regen), the regen braking effect, proactive driving assist, ways to keep the ICE off outside of acceleration points (pedal control/EV button).

The rest is just driving and traffic strategy in order to facilitate the highest functioning of the hybrid system.

 

I'll be thankful to get 60+ mpg with my LE- too many people in the area would road rage with what is needed to hypermile.

 

I drive very normally (in my area), and make sure not to inconvenience other drivers. Acceleration at the top of eco mode is a lot quicker in the G5, than the G4.

 

What type of instant mpg are people getting on the interstate cruising at 70-75 mph with cruise control? Hard to hypermile in a steady state speed

I’m getting the LE awd and I know the awd system kills the city mpg, but apparently Toyota shuts off the rear wheels at higher highway speeds. What highway mpg happens with the awd?

 

What type of instant mpg are people getting on the interstate cruising at 70-75 mph with cruise control? Hard to hypermile in a steady state speed

I’m getting the LE awd and I know the awd system kills the city mpg, but apparently Toyota shuts off the rear wheels at higher highway speeds. What highway mpg happens with the awd?

 

What type of instant mpg are people getting on the interstate cruising at 70-75 mph with cruise control? Hard to hypermile in a steady state speed

I’m getting the LE awd and I know the awd system kills the city mpg, but apparently Toyota shuts off the rear wheels at higher highway speeds. What highway mpg happens with the awd?

 

AWD LE @ 56 or so at that speed for me. You have to be very attentive with adaptive Cruise or you'll speed up and slow down a lot when approaching or passing cars

 

When you stop and turn off the car you get "trip data" on the MID that gives you the mpg since you last started the car, calculated over whatever distance you may have traveled. It also displays the mileage, the elapsed time and the % of EV operation.

But I'm not aware of any way to check your "instant mpg" while driving at any particular speed. I know there is the horizontal bar graph that gives a rough approximation but the only numbers on it are 0, 50 and 100 and it jumps around a lot. It would be more useful if the scale was in 10 mpg intervals.

Is that how you came up with 56 mpg or is there a way to get more accurate moment to moment mpg info that I'm unaware of?

 

Just overall 57.3 mpg since new. MPG drops a little while on highway and when I turn it off, I get @ the 56mpg number. Sometimes higher, sometimes lower. I do two trips of 2-300 a week and I am basing my numbers only on 2 round trips. AC on when necessary, reasonable acceleration NE US weather. I'm expecting a drop in the winter, as always, and a further drop when I install non lrr winter tires.

 

Just overall 57.3 mpg since new. MPG drops a little while on highway and when I turn it off, I get @ the 56mpg number. Sometimes higher, sometimes lower. I do two trips of 2-300 a week and I am basing my numbers only on 2 round trips. AC on when necessary, reasonable acceleration NE US weather. I'm expecting a drop in the winter, as always, and a further drop when I install non lrr winter tires.

 

Thanks for the info. At clean mpg forums the Ioniq blue was getting 56 mpg at a steady state when the mpg meter was reset once reaching 70 mph. Obviously most people go about 75 when the highway speed limit is 70. I did a few aero mods in my Ioniq to make it higher. Was wondering the baseline steady state mpg of the LE awd on the highway when mpg is reset once up to speed. Trying to Calculate room for improvement on modding and lowering my new Priuses drag coefficient

 

I will definitely only buy hybrids in the next 50 years. especially how good Toyota is today with their hybrid lineup, such as the versatile Prius and Sienna. 50+ mpg is already really good and reliable. I just want to share that we are all being fooled by our government, media, and UN. They have misinterpreted IPCC-UN reports for political gains. We are all panicking and desperately want to have Netzero, caused by false and unrelable predictions. The actual data from the IPCC is not alarming at all.

I felt guilty as a scientist who got so much funding for renewable energy and had a conflict of interest. Don't follow the mistake of Germany and Denmark, which pay almost twice as much as other countries. € 0.35 per kWh. The effect of CO2 to global warming is much smaller once we reach the current level of 400 ppm. Even if we have 800 ppm, the increase of temperature is not more than 0.08 C. Our earth has been warming since the Ice Age, thousands of years ago. Our money should be spent better on giving better energy access to poor countries in Africa and Asia. That's how the world should live better.

I am not a climate denier but a fact-believer who understands scientific reports. The earth is warming naturally; we add it by our CO2 emissions, but the effect is not as we thought. We should focus more on reducing toxic materials, better water access for everyone, and carbon capture. No need to abandon fosil fuel completely.

 

I've posted here recently that, trying to predict what life will be like, even within the next 10 years is getting moire difficult, it seems day to day.
As I read above and being the dreamer type I think I might be, I've been scorned for many of my beliefs, so I do my best to respect others interests as I would like to have mine accepted by others,
In 2012 I was driving a 2006 Honda Civic Hybrid that had reached about 110k miles and was still being dealer serviced, as it turned out to be the last dealer service seeing the hybrid battery tank and code within two weeks of that service. Long story short, I test drove a brand new, just off the carrier truck, a base Prius C. I wasn't initially impressed with the C, but asked the salesman what he thought about a Prius C with a pluig. His reply to me was "never". I'm still. waiting and dreaming.
I have some news to report about the Toyota Aqua Hybrid I've learned form one of @jacktheripper authorized
nextpower lithium project installers from Trinidad, since the Aqua is not available in our market yet.
Here is his newest tube about 2022 Aqua Hybrid. Some reading this might already know if his channel.

Still using a NiMH battery just built very differently than the NiMH batteries we have currently for the US/CA markets.
And here is a link to the Aqua specs from Toyota with the one spec that means the most to me.
Toyota to Launch All-New Aqua | Toyota | Global Newsroom | Toyota Motor Corporation Official Global Website

There is also a new model compact SUV in other markets named Raize with a 2 bank lithium ion pack which Hybrid Solution Diagnostics has done an initial review about, though I'm still waiting for specs, mostly interested in nominal pack voltage of the 2 banks.
Keep in mind that both of these current Toyota offerings are still just regular hybrids, and I think, would hope that at least one or two others might be as excited as I am about being able to plug in these vehicles.
Thanks for reading about my dreams for what's possible.

 

Toyota has its presentation how 1 BZ4x: prius Plugin : Prius = 90 : 7 : 1 consume raw materials (Cu, Li, Rare earth, Co, Mn,Ni).

Going regular hybrid is still greener overall for our planet. We do PHEV to satisfy our choices. Which is what we should be. Choices and freedom are important

 

If they had a diesel mild hybrid option, they could build 120 of those with the same amount of batteries.

Toyota has to worry about where to use their battery supplies, because they didn't invest into their supply chains for them. Lack of batteries didn't keep the Model Y from outselling the Corolla globally. If Toyota had taken the same stance to batteries back when the gen2 Prius came out as they did for plug ins, they wouldn't be able to make those 90 Prius today.