SARS-CoV-2 Coronavirus (COVID-19)

When did RSV vaccine become an 'old fashioned' one? It was approved only this year, I haven't been able to get my very first one yet. The first RSV vaccine trials back in the 1960s actually killed a bunch of kids, which put those efforts on ice for decades. The mechanisms that caused that were figured out only fairly recently.

Chicken pox vaccine isn't old fashioned either, it didn't exist in my youth. The first shingles vaccine was only partially effective, the second significantly more so.

Don't look back on those 'old' vaccines with too much rose shading in your glasses. They had problems, but were still far better than the alternative.

 

Our daughter got a chickenpox vaccination about ¼ century ago ... so whether that's old fashioned or not? RSV? My bad - that shouldn't have been on my decades ago list as examples of vaccination for diseases that was pretty much a good to go scenario. A shame my wording allowed the point to be missed.
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Your point wasn't missed. It was just wrong. Those vaccines weren't 100% benign. Still aren't. If they came out today; news sensationalism, and those spreading misinformation, would make it appear to the public that they are dangerous with the potential side effects. Just like is happening with the COVID vaccine. You are just experiencing the opposite. Those vaccines have been around for so long that you take their low risk for granted, and have forgotten, or maybe never were informed, of those risks the last time you had direct interaction with them.

It is the same phenomenon that is going on with car fires with EVs vs ICEs.

 

Possibly. I DO (as a kid) remember when the very effective pain killer thalidomide was taken off the market after it was discovered children of mothers that took it were born badly deformed.

 

I thought that was for Thalidomide: the tragedy of birth defects and the effective treatment of disease - PubMed.

 

Yes for nausea, as well as neuropathy pain and other ailments.
Systemic Injection of Thalidomide Prevent and Attenuate Neuropathic Pain and Alleviate Neuroinflammatory Response in the Spinal Dorsal Horn - PMC
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I didn't know what it was prescribed for, and it happened before I was born, but I knew of thalidomide. Its impact was big enough lead to major changes to how medications are screened before approval, and be mentioned in Billy Joel's song.

The chicken pox vaccine can result in rash that can pass chicken pox onto others. It could also result in brain infections.
Chickenpox (Varicella) Vaccine Information Statement | CDC
So some potentially serious reactions to taking the vaccine. The chances of these reactions actually happening are much lower that equally negative outcomes from actually getting sick with the infection.

 

have you tried Walgreens? That's where we got ours. Supposedly it's good for life - unless they decide later that it isn't.
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Curiously, vaccinations especially for children are 'Darwin Award' effective:

• Vaccine work - the population of vaccine friendly increases and they have offspring who will see vaccines as desirable.
• Vaccine hazard - the population of vaccine hostile increases and they have offspring who will reject vaccines as hazardous.

Evolution is most effective when those who have yet to produce offspring are the test subjects. Self-selection works.

Bob Wilson

 

*sigh* They don't decide. It is the nature of the infectious agents and our immune systems. Some vaccines can provide protection for decades. Others, like for tetanus, only for years, and then there ones like for the flu that need annual boosters. It comes down to how long our immune system 'memory' operations hold onto a specific agent, and how quickly the agent itself can change to evade the protection triggered by the vaccine. Saying decide makes it sound like it is conspiracy in the name of profit or power. An external desire, and not the internal need it is.

We were lucky RNA vaccine technology was at where it was when COVID 19 arrived. It was years after the 'Spanish' flu pandemic was gone before we had a vaccine, and then it was years later to set up screening systems to account seasonal shifting and mutation of the variants.

History of influenza vaccination

 

I remember it well. Doesn’t validate anything. Getting vaccinated asap and not a shred of concern. I was a polio guinea pig in elementary school, parents signed us over. Everyone I heard of or knew got it. I was supposed to have had small pox when I got vaccinated for it, too long ago to remember the whole story, almost died I guess.
Getting covid vaccination asap, and going to start mask wearing in crowded places. I don’t want to go through getting it again.

 

so it would seem ..... 1st 'science' reads i'd seen was for life . Now every other year maybe?
While data showed that one

Should You Get the New RSV Vaccine? > News > Yale Medicine.

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My health provider is not subcontracting this and most other immunizations to outside pharmacies. They are expecting to roll this one out late this month or early next month. News from other areas indicates the some people getting this vaccine outside their network have been hit with some quite high charges.

Don't confuse 'mass media' with 'science'. One of them is much more prone to hype and overstatement, while dropping the accompanying limitations and weasel words and disclaimers..

 

it had to happen, but i think i have read it many times before, from many anti vax whatabouters

 

See also page 169.

 

https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2023/08/myocarditis-heart-damage-in-1-out-of-35-covid-vaccinations.html

This article seems to be saying heart damage could be so hard to discern you might not know it unless you start taking up heavy exercise.

Incidentally - isn't this the month (or next month) that the litigation immunity ends for covid-19 vaccinations?
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next big future? really? i've seen those videos on all the covid ct sites.

what is the incidence rate in people with covid?