Is 2024 Prius/Prius Prime imminent?

I’ve test driven two. Would have bought the first one but I was so anxious about all the changes and it had the back seat fabric issue and crooked headrest. I guess I needed some time to adjust to the changes and fact that I’m letting go of my Gen 2. I’m so attached although last night when I was walking up to her I noticed the small wheels are starting to look funny. I guess the big tires are like a fashion trend.

Second 2023 Prius had a weird wind noise from driver’s side window despite it being shut tight plus the noisy Toyos. Now I know the slightly slanted headrest is the norm for the Prius although I don’t think this is the case with the Prime. I might have to live with the Toyos but I couldn’t deal with a mystery noise. It’s still on the lot which isn’t good. Not my fault but I’m sure they are annoyed. Oh well…it takes me a while with a big purchase like this. Heck it takes me a while when purchasing an expensive tea kettle. I’m not used to getting new shiny things especially something I’ll be living with for a long time.

 

The already wealthy distributors and dealers will have their day of reckoning for their over msrp pricing added directly or through $5k-$10k worth of low value add ons. Toyota corp is already retreating through discounted financing and small rebates. The market is stabilizing and the independent evs are forcing change.

 

Yes I’m noticing more EVs being promoted. They better get working on standardizing and funding more charging sites.

 

The majority of ev owners have two or more cars and charge at home instead of charging stations for double the cost.

People sometimes think of current evs as impractical as an only car and they are correct. As a commuter car owned by an upper middle class family with a Highlander for vacations and primary hauling, a Tesla Model S makes sense and beats Ferraris.

A compact Model 3 (a reference to a Model T) was initially priced to be Tesla's everyman commuter car. The pandemic supply issues jacked up Model 3 prices but Chinese competition will change that situation even without a big tax credit. Model 3's are probably more available now than a new Prius except when the Prius headrest looks cockeyed.

Toyota is promising evs with 650 mile or more range using solid state batteries which could change the equation and create vehicles you own for 500,000 miles.

 

What things would you like see 'straightened out' on the 2023 Hybrid?

 

off the top of my head, the charging fan problem and lack of second fob

 

The fob issue has nothing to do with the model year. It affects all Toyota models and Toyota has published a schedule to dealers of how they hope to catch up based on date of production, model type, and country of production.

When Toyota discovered that they could not produce 2 keys for every car, they had a choice: produce fewer cars so that could issue 2 keys with each car, or issue one key and promise the 2nd key later. They chose the latter option, and, I understand they are catching up. Changing model years won't affect this (unless they delay a new model year until they are caught up).

Model year updates within a generation are pretty minor. Between 2016 and 2018 (I totaled a 2016 and replaced it with a 2018), I believe the major change was the options available within each trim level. I actually downgraded from a 'level 4' to a 'level 3' because a large touch screen without a CD player was mandatory in level 4 models for 2018. In later revisions, they revised the trim level designations, changed the back-end look, and added wired CarPlay and Android Auto.

 

When we couldn't find a Prius we started talks with a dealership and they said we order now it MAY be a 2024 edition. Depending on where in the queue we fell. Ended up finding a new one and didn't have to wait.

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Edit. This was last week.

 

Am I missing something…….the 2023s aren’t even here yet. Well in terms of the prime. The dealers near me, literally have NO 2023. So what happens in 2024? Will they have a lot of inventory of both years?

 

I’ve only seen one ‘23, and it was a prime.

The one thing I’d really like to see “straightened out”, is to reinstate the mother-loving spare. And if I can be so greedy, bring 17” wheel model to Canada, and the non-AWD version. If and when that happens I’ll maybe have a look.

 

yeah I know it was released, but like you said, they haven’t been producing any. So my question is will 2023s all of the sudden show up in 2024 or will they just start making 2024s and just punt on the 2023 models?

 

I thought with one of those, likely the AWD, it was doable, with one additional bracket, to hold something out of the way? Still:

I’m old-fashioned; would like Toyota to come around. I’m not inclined to drop $40k and then start fixing things.

 

It's absolutely doable. Gokhan likes to assume negative things about the gen5, but rarely internalizes when someone corrects him. He'll say something incorrect, be educated about the mistake, acknowledge the correction, then say the exact same incorrect thing a couple months later.

The extra bracket isn't even strictly necessary. That's only specified for the US, so there's probably an extra regulation that requires it down here. But you really should use the factory foam pad that goes underneath the spare wheel if you've got AWD. The pad holds the tire up and away from the AWD power connector.

 

LOL - no .... OPEC is not like Toyota because when Toyota short sheets supply, buyers find they can get better prices with other manufacturers. For those not paying attention, it's no longer a Toyota that builds the best selling car (hint - it's the Model Y) among all manufacturers. Great way to piss away loyalty - overprice your product. When OPEC & Russia cut off fuel, all you get to do is bend over because you'll end up short on toxic - carcinogenic - explosive dyno-juice. because unlike car manufacturers - there's no where else to go to get fuel.
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looking at toyotas sales numbers, it seems they are shorting n/a and increasing other areas of the world.
maybe less profitable here? idk.