1. Attachments are working again! Check out this thread for more details and to report any other bugs.

2010 Prius IV Uses Oil??

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Care, Maintenance & Troubleshooting' started by choloperuano, Aug 17, 2023.

  1. choloperuano

    choloperuano Junior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2015
    11
    3
    0
    Location:
    Coeur d Alene, Idaho
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    IV
    Earlier this year our 2010 Prius IV started making some odd knocking noises. We took it to the dealership and they told us it was almost out of oil and this is normal for this Prius. That this Prius is notorious for using lots of oil. We bought this brand new in 2010 with 14 miles on it and now it has over 130,000. This has never been an issue and it seems weird that it's a "known issue" when it's the first time it's happened to us. The last time the oil was changed was on May 3rd and yesterday I got my first warning light that the pressure was low (which I didn't get back in May btw) and had to add about 3 quarts before it got back to the full line.

    Since I don't trust my local dealership, thanks to you guys in the past I have been able to call out their BS, does anyone else have any information on this? The oil that is supposed to be used is the 0W-20 Synthetic which is what I bought to fill it this time. Actually I used the Pennzoil for higher miles one but you get the jist. Currently I have 132,514 miles on it. Though that's pretty much right at 3,000 miles, isn't it supposed to be 5,000? Also, there is no oil spraying under the hood or any oil marks on the concrete in the garage where it is parked. Also, I don't have white smoke billowing out of the exhaust so where is the oil going?

    Any input would be appreciated. Hopefully I've provided enough details. Thanks in advance! : )
     
  2. sam spade 2

    sam spade 2 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2018
    7,035
    2,790
    0
    Location:
    USA
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius c
    Model:
    Four
    ALL vehicles that are 13 years old with 130,000 miles on them might be expected to use a little oil because of internal wear.
    Some more than others. You have one of the "more" ones.

    You should NOT wait until you get an oil pressure alarm before checking the oil.
    That is a DISASTER IMMINENT alarm. Seriously.

    So.....start checking the oil much more often, like at least once a week.
    Start using a somewhat heavier "high mileage" oil.
    And hope that there hasn't been any additional damage done because of the low
    oil level.

    Oil usage has been discussed at some length in this forum.
    Do some searching.

    It might be time to start shopping for a different car.
    The hybrid battery doesn't last forever either.
     
  3. choloperuano

    choloperuano Junior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2015
    11
    3
    0
    Location:
    Coeur d Alene, Idaho
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    IV
    I did do some searching but didn't find much for what I was asking about. I'll go back and check again though. Yes, I will definitely start checking more often. I was hoping it was a fluke and if I'm not in the habit of doing something.....

    How heavy would you recommend? I bought a 5 quart container of the 0W-20 so I will switch once I am done with it.
     
  4. sam spade 2

    sam spade 2 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2018
    7,035
    2,790
    0
    Location:
    USA
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius c
    Model:
    Four
    Do a Google search for "high mileage oil".
    Seems like I remember that most are 10W30.

    While that might sound like a BIG difference, it really isn't as oil goes.

    But don't get your hopes up TOO high.
    It is like putting a bandaid on a severed artery.
     
  5. ASRDogman

    ASRDogman Senior Member

    Joined:
    May 29, 2018
    6,422
    3,410
    0
    Location:
    Florida
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    130,000 miles is not a lot, but about the time it would start burning oil.
    A good rule of thumb might be to check it ever other fuel fill up. If you fill at 1/2 tank.
    Every time if you wait until 1/4 of a tank. It give you something to do while waiting for
    the tank to fill.

    The oil is burning in the cylinders, from blowby of the oil control ring on the piston.
    0-30 or 5-30 would be a good oil to use. Lot's of people say they use 40 or 50w, butttt.....
    That would be pushing it. Unless you were using a qt every 2-300 miles, then it's doesn't matter
    because the cylinder walls are gone....
    Hopefully, you were able to add oil before serious damage was done.
    Since you only drive about 10,000 miles a year, you'd only have to change your oil every
    6 months. So adding oil in between won't be too expensive. Also, depending on how you drive,
    you'll use more oil if you drive it like an F1 car, but if you drive it like a Prius, you won't burn as much.

    Have you had the EGR system cleaned yet? That would be a good thing to do.


     
  6. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    110,135
    50,050
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    is a slow leak out of the drain plug a possibility?

    or maybe they didn't put enough oil in at the change
     
  7. sam spade 2

    sam spade 2 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2018
    7,035
    2,790
    0
    Location:
    USA
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius c
    Model:
    Four
    It also might be useful to note that IF the oil usage really is from loose/worn rings that
    lets oil into the combustion chamber, the unburned oil likely will eventually damage
    the catalytic converter and if you are in California that can be an expensive problem.
     
  8. choloperuano

    choloperuano Junior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2015
    11
    3
    0
    Location:
    Coeur d Alene, Idaho
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    IV
    HA! I wouldn't doubt if they didn't put enough in but alas, I just need to keep a better eye on checking the oil. Again, no oil leaks at all whatsoever! As far as the EGR system is concerned, I doubt they would have done that since it supposedly needs to be 150,000 miles before that's checked. I've looked up how to do it and may do it when I'm not using it on the daily which I do during the summers.

    I'll also do a slow upgrade on the oil to see when the levels stop dropping or at least slow down. Thank you all for the replies! I really appreciate it!
     
    bisco likes this.
  9. sam spade 2

    sam spade 2 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2018
    7,035
    2,790
    0
    Location:
    USA
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius c
    Model:
    Four
    While that may sound logical, it is NOT a valid way to do it.

    The high mileage oil needs to go in all at once when a change is due.
    Or before a change is due.
     
  10. Doug McC

    Doug McC Senior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2022
    1,014
    382
    0
    Location:
    Midwest
    Vehicle:
    2022 Prius
    Model:
    XLE
    The Car Care Nut on YouTube has several videos that address this issue. You might find them interesting.
     
    choloperuano likes this.
  11. choloperuano

    choloperuano Junior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2015
    11
    3
    0
    Location:
    Coeur d Alene, Idaho
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    IV
    Okay, I realize what I said may have sounded like that but it's not what I meant. I did mean from one oil change to the next to change the type of oil to a thicker one! :) LOL
     
  12. Mendel Leisk

    Mendel Leisk EGR Fanatic

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2010
    56,676
    39,222
    80
    Location:
    Greater Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    Touring
    Dealership definitely will have done squat about the EGR. And Toyota's circled-the-wagons on this, denies* there's an issue. At 150K miles you're well into the danger zone; head gasket failure is pretty much guaranteed by 200k. To think elsewise with any 3rd gen Prius is fools-paradise.

    If you're mechanically inclined, have some tools, DIY if at all possible: there's precious few places that'll help you with this. If you demand dealership have a look at it, the only way they'll approach it is with parts swaps, and their approach will cost about a grand, for parts alone, before they start tacking on the labour.

    * Toyota did issue a warranty extension notice on the EGR issue, but says to wait for EGR specific code, and/or bucking during cold starts, before doing anything. Which is WAY too late. Also, the include the following, utterly BS phrase in that missive:

    while the majority of vehicles will not experience this condition

    ^ Just like that, italicized and underlined. I guess if you're going to lie through your teeth, you might as well be emphatic?
     
    #12 Mendel Leisk, Aug 19, 2023
    Last edited: Aug 19, 2023
  13. OptimusPriustus

    OptimusPriustus Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2021
    322
    134
    1
    Location:
    Finland
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    Not necessarily. We have two oil burners in the house and catalytic converters are just fine (emissions are tested every year). The other one (not Prius) has some 175kmiles on the clock and we’ve driven the last 65kmiles during 7years. Consume some 0.7l - 1l of oil per 600miles. One should use quality oil if car consume oil. Cheap stuff may not burn as clean (i believe)
     
  14. sam spade 2

    sam spade 2 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2018
    7,035
    2,790
    0
    Location:
    USA
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius c
    Model:
    Four
    Of course. It depends on exactly why the oil consumption is happening and where it is going.
    And how much is going out the pipes.

    In an engine that is operating properly, the OIL does not "burn" at all.
    Or at least only a very TINY bit.