Oregon legalizes gasoline self-service

States are the laboratories of Democracy but sometimes experiments blow up like in Alabama: https://www.splcenter.org/news/2021/06/25/cruel-legacy-alabama-anti-immigrant-law-remembered

The state had just enacted what lawmakers proudly proclaimed the nation’s toughest anti-immigrant law, one that “attacks every aspect” of an undocumented immigrant’s life. The Beason-Hammon Taxpayer and Citizen Protection Act – better known as House Bill 56 (HB 56) – was modeled after an Arizona law that granted police the authority to demand “papers” demonstrating citizenship or legal status during routine traffic stops. HB 56 was signed into law by Gov. Robert Bentley on June 9, 2011.
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“This is still the law, but not one employer has been prosecuted,” he said. “So, Alabama goes through all these hoops, but not one constituent has enforced it. We look away from the employer and instead go for the ‘little people.’ The law didn’t work then, and it’s still not working today.”
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Industries dependent on migrant labor were dealt a severe blow. Farmers could not fill the void created by the loss of workers who had once plowed fields and planted crops, which were now rotting and threatening the state’s economy.

“What happened is that we became an unwelcoming state; that’s what we gained,” Rubio said. “And for any legislature that says we can ‘scare’ immigrants away, I challenge them to go to any chicken plant, any landscaping plant, and you’ll find undocumented workers.”

Then, as now, immigrants also helped fill high-demand jobs in health care, technology and other specialized industries in the state and around the country.
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Then there was the first Liberal:

“The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’

“Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’

“They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’

“He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’​

Some of us try to follow the teachings of Jesus. Others are Southern Baptists.

Bob Wilson

 

yes, i was just reading about juan bizzaro

 

hmmm... is Christianity in a crisis, or has it always been that some understand and accept the teachings of the Lord, and others simply pay lip service for their own selfish reasons?
the cross is a burden most can't bear.
for example: the pharisee and the publican, luke 18: 9-14

 

“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness."
Matt 7:21- (ESV)

"Works versus Faith" seems to be a pretty big deal in Christianity, and even for those who not believe in the "Accidental Universe" theory, there's more than one flavor out there even within Christianity - as excellently illustrated above.
The Christian Bible is replete with examples of really REALLY bad rulers doing good things, and some good ones doing bad.

If one has questions or doubts, THIS probably isn't a good place to light a candle for illumination.
Too much bio-fuel wafting about.....


I'm a full-throated, Constitution thumping, First Amendments rights kinda guy, but I don't own this pancake house....

 

thread drift is a thing

 

I LOVED full service gas in Oregon. It rains all the time, and it’s so convenient to have it pumped for you.

 

Been in Oregon past several days. Have yet to find a station doing self-serve.

Probably are some in the big city -- Portland..

 

I have had MidWest plates for several years...
Kris

 

Was Oregon going to require attendants for EV chargers if no self serve was kept?

I grew up in NJ, and have seen enough little dribbles from attendants in a hurry to figure the waste and pollution really adds up. A teaspoon with your fill may not seem like much, but the amount it multiplied over thousands of fills.

 

"I have had MidWest plates for several years..."

Possible legal violation detected

ORS 803.325 - Purchase and use of out-of-state registered vehicle

 

When I sell my Iowa home and move out of state, I will see about new plates.

 

Yah ta hey

 

Just back in Washington state, after an extended (week and a half) trip to visit relatives in Oregon. Bought gas or was in the car when gasoline was bought three times.

Saw no evidence that "self-serve" was a thing. The pump jockeys were still pumping the gas and the drivers were not getting out of their vehicles. This was small town stations. Don't know about any stations along I-5....I always get out of the car when buying gas. Just gives me a chance to stretch my legs, but I never touched the pump last week.