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Are the Prius prone to rust at the lower front edge of the front doors?

Discussion in 'Prime Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by sylvaing, Jul 19, 2023.

  1. sylvaing

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    Both front doors on my 2017 are showing rust at their lower front edges. On the driver door, it even started to show from the outside. Is this common for the Prius to rust there? I took out the rubber grommet nearest to the edge, blasted some air and then applied Fluid Film in and out, hoping to slow down its progression.

    I wanted to clean it better from within the door through the speaker opening but that speaker is riveted in place! What? Why do that! Anyway, that's the best way I found. Any tips to slowdown its progression even further?

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    from my experience, no. especially after 6 years
     
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    no to what? Prone to rust there or ways to slow down progression?
     
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    they are not prone to rust at those locations in my experience, and i haven't seen many complaints here.
     
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    Ok, thanks.
     
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    Looks exactly like my white 2017 front doors. Any easy repair ideas?
     
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    Last year, I applied OSPHO on the inside of the door (riveted out the speaker to have access), removed the original caulking, cleaned it up, repainted it (only had a paint pen then) and applied a new caulking bead. The passenger side which only started rusting from the inside hasn't continued and looks rust free but the driver door is becoming worse. Rust is starting to burst on the outside :( I've bought Bondo, Blue Magnetism spray paint, cleat coat spray and clear coat blending spray. My idea is to remove all the rust, use OSPHO, Bondo the repair, sand, repaint the area, clear coat it and use the clear coat blending to 'blend' the new clear coat with the old. Waiting for the temperature to be milder. Because of the location, I might have to remove the door (or the fender, depending what's the easiest) so I don't damage the fender while working on it. Another reason why I'm putting it off lol.
     
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    Whereabouts in Canada?
     
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    Because it's a low-cost way to guarantee a rattle-free installation. It's not that big of a deal to drill out the rivets, nor is replacing them with fresh pop-rivets afterwards.
     
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    Asking me or Rog17?
     
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    Sorry, yes, you. Presumably lots of salt?
     
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    Yeah, in the Ottawa region, lots of salt. However, whenever I see a Gen4 parked Prius or Prime, I look down to see if there's any rust starting there and I haven't seen any. I'm thinking it's a manufacturing defect but with the rust warranty being so short on those cars, it's long gone so I have no recourse with Toyota.
     
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    My 2010 also had the same problem, but only on the passenger side (i'm in Ottawa too). I just cleaned/claybar'd that portion and kept it at bay until the last year when the engine seized and i junked it. Yeah it also had the oil burning problem too, and the seizing brake calipers problem. Worse prius gen in my opinion but it lasted 14 years so hopefully that indicates my Prime with no detectable problems will last longer lol.
     
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    I recall there's been several (Priuschat) threads regarding door drains. Maybe 5th gen in particular of late. Here's one I found for fourth gen:

    Door drain holes | PriusChat

    My guess would be there's some pocket/convolution inside the door, which is proving difficult to drain properly.

    A solution to stuff like this is to ship prototype cars of each gen, early on, to the countries they sell in, driving them extensively, If there's salt belt regions for sure test some there. Then check them over, thoroughly..

    Seems to me Toyota is not doing this, or not doing enough. And/or not piling enough miles, say for typical North American driving conditions. Probably because their competitors aren't doing it either, it costs, and so on. Seems like they're not even doing this in Japan, considering the debacles that arise with pretty much every generation
     
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    Yeah, whenever I clean the bottom of the doors, I always have to reposition these flaps as they get crooked. I wonder if that could be the reason. The previous owner never repositioned them, defeating their use and water accumulated inside...
     
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    Periodically running a zip tie up and around in all these seems a good idea, say after every carwash. Our parade of Hondas over the years, I think one of the manuals mentioned checking those. I've forgotten about that of late. :unsure:

    I appreciate that doesn't address your current issue. Bite the bullet and have a body shop assess it? I'm not really sure there is long lasting solution, at least one that doesn't break the bank. I think you'd want to pull the inner panel off, and the vapour barrier, see how accesible it from the inside. For starters. Still, that rust is way in the corner, beyond the panel opening. Boroscope might help, with that inner panel off.
     
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    I did open the panel and that's why needed to remove the speaker, to access that area and yes, that corner isn't even accessible from the inside as it's a folded metal edge. I did bath it in OSPHO to try and prevent the rust from spreading to the inside. It has helped the passenger door which is no longer (so far) showing any rust but the front driver door was showing more rust to start with so I guess I'll try to fix it the best I can until a door becomes available in a nearby scrap yard, especially the same color so I don't have to repaint it. Yes, it might be a different tone but as long as it's not too much, it won't bother me.
     
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    So last weekend I decided to work on that panel.

    I dremmelled away the rusted metal panel (so had a hole in the outer panel now and inner panel was rust free). To be safe, I squirted OSPHO in the remaining folded steel panel joint that hadn't shown rust yet. I applied Bondo over the hole sand it down, applied two coats of primer, applied three coats of paint, applied three coats of clear coat, wet sand the transition between new and old clear coat with 2000 grit sand paper and finished by polishing the panel.

    I should have taken pictures of the steps but didn't think of it. This is the before and after look.



    While I was painting, I also took the time to repaint the tow hook cover that the previous owner replaced but never painted it. Two primer coats, three base coats and three clear coats.

     
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