1. Attachments are working again! Check out this thread for more details and to report any other bugs.

Why is Prius Prime so much cheaper in Canada?

Discussion in 'Gen 5 Prius Main Forum' started by Gokhan, May 3, 2023.

  1. Vneck

    Vneck New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2023
    21
    11
    0
    Location:
    Kent, WA
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius
    Model:
    ----USA----
    middle tier is close to a tesla price, I will pick a tesla instead
     
    bisco likes this.
  2. Gokhan

    Gokhan Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2008
    4,958
    1,949
    0
    Location:
    Paramount CA
    Vehicle:
    2021 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Limited
    "Drive connect" requires an LTE connection to Toyota's traffic server. The subscription starts at $15 a month, and I will not get it.

    Toyota connected services
     
    #22 Gokhan, May 4, 2023
    Last edited: May 4, 2023
  3. Trollbait

    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2006
    22,447
    11,760
    0
    Location:
    eastern Pennsylvania
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    So the TJA needs an official traffic report to allow its use.:rolleyes:
     
  4. Gokhan

    Gokhan Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2008
    4,958
    1,949
    0
    Location:
    Paramount CA
    Vehicle:
    2021 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Limited
    The owner's manual does not mention subscription. Perhaps Toyota wants to upload the driver-monitoring data to their servers. It does not seem to have anything to do with the functionality of the system otherwise.

    TJA is pretty useless. The speed is limited to 25 mph. Even TSS 2.0 can do automated stop-and-go driving, which I have tried.
     
  5. Trollbait

    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2006
    22,447
    11,760
    0
    Location:
    eastern Pennsylvania
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    But not hands off the wheel.
     
  6. mountaineer

    mountaineer Active Member

    Joined:
    May 7, 2019
    144
    113
    1
    Location:
    Ontario
    Vehicle:
    2019 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Premium
    You should see the European prices!
     
    Tideland Prius and Gokhan like this.
  7. Trollbait

    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2006
    22,447
    11,760
    0
    Location:
    eastern Pennsylvania
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Those usually include the VAT. Then there is the impost tariff on the Prime.
     
  8. Sarge

    Sarge Senior Member

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2005
    1,320
    774
    1
    Location:
    Milton, Ontario, Canada
    Vehicle:
    2023 Prius Prime
    Model:
    XSE Premium
    The difference from 2022 to 2023 Prime for the top trim is actually $8000; The MSRP for the 2022 “Technology” model in Canada was $39,000, before any rebates or fees. Toyota Canada now includes freight & dealer fees in the price shown on Toyota.ca (about $3200), and bakes this into the posted price, which is $50,204 (may vary slightly by province).

    However if we back out the fees to make an apples to apples comparison, the MSRP is actually ~$47,000. In addition to this, the larger battery (AER) bumps it up to a larger federal incentive - from a $2500 to $5000 (and possibly qualify for more provincial incentives too) - which means the actual difference is $5500 over the prior model. Not insignificant of course and still an “expensive” vehicle, but at least there are a lot of enhancements that come with that added cost. :cool:
     
    Eug, mountaineer and Tideland Prius like this.
  9. Skyisfalling

    Skyisfalling New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2023
    8
    6
    0
    Location:
    So Cal
    Vehicle:
    2023 Prius Prime
    Model:
    SE
    Because, you can't get them in Canada......no allocation....LOL
     
    Downrange likes this.
  10. Sarge

    Sarge Senior Member

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2005
    1,320
    774
    1
    Location:
    Milton, Ontario, Canada
    Vehicle:
    2023 Prius Prime
    Model:
    XSE Premium
    Not sure about that… I have seen a couple of regular Prius driving around, and I will have my Prime in August. :cool:
     
  11. Eug

    Eug Swollen Member

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2004
    956
    211
    0
    Location:
    Earth (for now)
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Technology
    Hmmm… I had no idea. I didn't bother looking at the Prime since I figured the price premium wouldn't be worth it. However, given its pricing in Canada after $5000 rebate, the Prime actually competes with the regular Prius. I went on the site to build out the Prius Prime XSE Premium and to my surprise the Prius Prime XSE Premium at $45,459.50 was actually cheaper than the the Prius Limited at $46,204.50.

    But then I realized why. All the non-Prime Priuses are AWD in Canada, whereas the Prime is FWD with no AWD option. That's too bad. Coming from the 2012 Plug-In, a Prius Prime AWD would have been the perfect upgrade. Oh well, it looks like when I finally do upgrade (2024 or 2025?) it may be the (non-Prime) Prius AWD.

    We live by a hill and my wife's RAV4 Hybrid AWD has no problem with it in icy conditions. In contrast, my FWD 2012 Prius Plug-In sometimes slips going up the hill after a winter melt and refreeze.
     
    Tideland Prius and Sarge like this.
  12. Sarge

    Sarge Senior Member

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2005
    1,320
    774
    1
    Location:
    Milton, Ontario, Canada
    Vehicle:
    2023 Prius Prime
    Model:
    XSE Premium
    Yeah, Prime comes out slightly cheaper than the regular Prius in Canada after the federal rebate, and would be several thousand less if you are in a province that has provincial incentives as well.

    Also, who knows, maybe if you wait a year or three, Toyota may find a way to stuff the AWD drivetrain into the Prius Prime. ;). Or just try to get your hands on a RAV4 Prime. :)

    My area is pretty flat, so AWD is not that important to me personally. Some good snow tires for the winter and I am good to go. (y)
     
    Eug and Tideland Prius like this.