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P0401 code with new cooler and valve, and cleaned intake manifold.

Discussion in 'Prius v Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by Skwekel, Apr 25, 2023.

  1. Skwekel

    Skwekel New Member

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    (I know there are many posts on this subject so I'm sorry for adding another) I had P0401 with engine misfire when first engine idling. I replaced the cooler and the valve and cleaned the intake manifold twice. Each time it runs smooth for about 30 miles then a rough idle usually when I first start the engine and throws the p0401 code.

    And I'm curious what my next move should be. Maybe replace the MAP, or maybe I need to just replace the intake manifold

    It won't let me share a link of a video until I make 4 posts. But I took a video of the MAP, MAF, and Commanded EGR code at start up with an engine misfire occuring. The map starts at 30 inHG and then drops to 21 during the rough idle then drops to 14.7 after the rough idle ends. Commanded EGR stays at 0% the entire time.

    Not sure I'm even looking at the right things for an error.

    Any advice would be very helpful.
     
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    I posted in your other thread about the curious way your scan tool is showing the manifold pressure. It's even curiouser here.

    As in that other post, I get the feeling your scan tool is not only converting the units to inHg, but also converting absolute pressure to gauge pressure, then leaving off a minus sign. Just as a quick sanity check, can you post what your scan tool says the pressure is when the engine is stopped?

    If I'm right about what the scan tool is doing, a few things look weird here. The 30 inHg is too low high implausibly vacuumy for an idling engine, would be more like a reading during intense engine braking. 21 is kind of in the ballpark for a normal idle. 14.7 is rather high low unvacuumy for an idling engine, at least when commanded EGR is zero.
     
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    It is at the 30 inHg when the engine is stopped. As soon as the engine kicks on it misfires and is at 21, then drops to 14.7 and runs smooth.

    I am hoping it is not head gasket issues. Though I know that is a possibility. I'm afraid to even mention as I want so badly for it to be another simpler issue to be fixed.
     
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    Ok, so the scan tool is only converting the units to inHg, but still displaying an absolute pressure—numbers go up for increasing pressure, down for more vacuum.

    That means your normal idle pressure is a little high (not as deep a vacuum as expected). Typical for idle tends to be around 27 kPa (or 4 psi, or 8 inHg absolute, or around −21 inHg gauge). Yours settling down at 14.7 inHg absolute seems like maybe there is an intake leak somewhere?

    I suspect the earlier rough running (and more elevated manifold pressure) just indicates the engine is under some load working to recharge the battery. It then settles down to a true idle and the lower manifold pressure. You could watch the battery current and see if you see a charging (negative) current during the rough-running period, that tapers off at the same time the engine seems to smooth out.