1. Attachments are working again! Check out this thread for more details and to report any other bugs.

Trip to Manassas

Discussion in 'Tesla' started by bwilson4web, Feb 17, 2023.

  1. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2005
    27,660
    15,661
    0
    Location:
    Huntsville AL
    Vehicle:
    2018 Tesla Model 3
    Model:
    Prime Plus
    So far, this is what my trip from Huntsville to Manassas is costing:
    upload_2023-2-17_1-19-48.png
    • $7.00 extra cost in Huntsville due to me having to go back home for something. Otherwise, home charging runs about 1/3d the cost of SuperCharging.
    • $7.00 saved at Manassas hotel that provides free Tesla charging.
    This is actually a practice run for a longer trip, ~1,300 miles, to Las Vegas in a couple of weeks. This trip is not over.

    I will do some Tesla camping with the dogs on the return trip saving the hotel room expense but losing the free charging. However, I can use free L2 chargers when we nap in the car or take biology breaks.

    The alternative, flying to Las Vegas and car rental, is faster but more expensive:
    • $500 - round trip airfare
    • $50 - car parking fee
    • $150 - car rental at Las Vegas
    • $200 - two dog kennel fee
    • $900 total - plus free frustration with flying
    Bob Wilson
     
    #1 bwilson4web, Feb 17, 2023
    Last edited: Feb 17, 2023
  2. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    110,129
    50,045
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    Boston to Orlando, 1,300 miles, 45 mpg, about 30 gallons at around $3.50/g
    = $105.00 = roughly .08/mile plus 2 hotel rooms another $250.and two subway dinners $15.00 free coffee and breakfast at Fairfield inns
     
  3. TMR-JWAP

    TMR-JWAP Senior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2016
    6,404
    6,062
    0
    Location:
    Columbia, SC
    Vehicle:
    2007 Prius
    Model:
    Touring
    or jump in your car or a plane or whatever, enjoy your trip and the numbers are whatever the heck they are. wgaf. Getting to where you're going and time spent not obsessing over how you get there and how many pennies it took.....priceless...
     
  4. Trollbait

    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2006
    22,447
    11,760
    0
    Location:
    eastern Pennsylvania
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    The OP is from a man that purposely ran cars out of gas just to know what exactly the reserve amount after the low fuel light came on. He likes collecting data.
     
  5. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2005
    27,660
    15,661
    0
    Location:
    Huntsville AL
    Vehicle:
    2018 Tesla Model 3
    Model:
    Prime Plus
    I would add there were 40 such experiments to measure gasoline quality before E10 became universal.

    Bib Wilson
     
  6. Zythryn

    Zythryn Senior Member

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2008
    6,308
    4,299
    1
    Location:
    Minnesota
    Vehicle:
    Other Electric Vehicle
    Model:
    N/A
    Money is easily quantifiable.
    Me telling you that my ~5,000 mile roadtrip from Minnesota to California and back was the best, most enjoyable vacation I have ever had, is more difficult to quantify.
    Never being tired at the end of a day of driving was a new experience for me.
    The cheap cost was also a big plus.
     
  7. CR94

    CR94 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2014
    2,642
    1,140
    0
    Location:
    Northwestern S.C.
    Vehicle:
    2011 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    I collected corresponding data from my previous car not by physically running out on the road somewhere, but by simply draining the tank through the fuel return line, with the car parked at home. Much more convenient and safer.
     
  8. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    110,129
    50,045
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    So if I trade our hycam for a Tesla, how much will I save over the next ten years?
     
  9. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2005
    27,660
    15,661
    0
    Location:
    Huntsville AL
    Vehicle:
    2018 Tesla Model 3
    Model:
    Prime Plus
    I don’t know your driving requirements enough. But I would start with:
    • Local trips and errands - number per month and miles per month.
    • Local electricity rates.
    • What sort and ratings of AC outlets are available and distance from car parking.
    • Number and ages of home residents.
    • Largest objects brought or taken from home.
    • Longest trips in past year.
    Bob Wilson
     
  10. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    110,129
    50,045
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    Locals = 1-2/day
    30-40/month, about 3-400 miles
    30 cents/kWh
    Have a 30 amp L2 in the garage , could go larger, 200 amp service
    2 people, 67 and 68
    Nothing large, annual trek to Florida Camry is full.
    About 8,000 miles per year total
     
  11. mikefocke

    mikefocke Prius v Three 2012, Avalon 2011

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2012
    3,758
    1,677
    0
    Location:
    Sanford, NC
    Vehicle:
    Other Hybrid
    Model:
    Limited
    I'd add:

    How many times do you need to have more than 2 occupants? More than 4?

    The height of your tallest typical occupant? Weight? (I ask because we take my Rav4 when my NFL lineman sized son is with us because it fits him better than my wife's Avalon)

    How many large objects do you need to carry along with how many passengers? (4 guys, 4 cart bags, 20 miles. Luggage for a 2 week cruise? Costco run with 4 freezer boxes etc?)

    How willing are you to rent for the maybe once or twice a year exception where your car just isn't big enough?
     
  12. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    110,129
    50,045
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    1) grandkids in the back

    2) rarely, but third grandchild coming

    3) rarely other adults, but no one over 6' or 220 lbs in our family and friends

    4) not carrying much'use the prius for most things, have a pickup

    5) no need to rent unless the tesla is smaller than the camry, in which case it's a non starter
     
  13. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2005
    27,660
    15,661
    0
    Location:
    Huntsville AL
    Vehicle:
    2018 Tesla Model 3
    Model:
    Prime Plus
    Thanks!

    Show stopper, "30 cents/kWh". Around town, you'll typically get 4-5 miles per kWh above 40 F, dry conditions. Worst case, $0.30/4 ~= $0.07/mile or $7.00 to drive 100 miles around town. Per EPA:
    upload_2023-2-19_19-44-25.png

    Your electricity cost is significantly high which make it more expensive to operate. Even a RAV4 Prime would have trouble saving money.

    Bob Wilson
     
  14. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    110,129
    50,045
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    even my pip costs more on ev than hv
     
    bwilson4web likes this.