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2012 Starter? Battery not holding charge after a few days?

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Care, Maintenance & Troubleshooting' started by spongebob, Feb 16, 2023.

  1. spongebob

    spongebob Not paying 'THE MAN' so much for fuel anymore!

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    First, I apologize for what I think the right words are, but my 2012 has been perfect for 10 years and I've not kept up with the technical words......
    So 3 days ago, I drove to the park about 2 miles away, parked and bicycled for 2 hours. Came back, entered the car and the start button was yellow and the dash was mainly dead. The front interior map lights were 95% dead. I used a jump battery to attach under the hood to the proper spot per the manual and after connecting for about 30 seconds, the radio started, the dashboard came to life so I tried the start button which was now green and started it right up. Once home, I checked to see if I had left the dome light or headlights on. Nothing obvious. I stopped the engine, and waited a few minutes and it started right up as normal.
    Next day, it started fine. Then it sat idle in my garage for 2 days. Tonight, while not as dead as 3 days ago, it was obviously not up to charge and wouldn't start. So, I repeated the the charge procedure. Still nothing that I could tell was left on.
    So any ideas? I left nothing on, and its started 2x tonight on my way home. I think there's a starter? battery in the rear on the passenger side. Could this battery be dyeing? Or some other thing? I only drive short trips around town, and not every day. Any ideas?
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  2. bisco

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    you need a new 12volt battery, and keep it on a battery tender because of the short trips
     
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    If it's the original 12 V battery it already died - you just managed to jumpstart its heart momentarily. No battery tender will help.

    All cars, including the Prius, constantly drain the battery at a very slow rate - this is called parasitic draw. A good battery can last four weeks without discharging enough to cause a no start. In your case the 12v battery is so old it can only hold one or two days of this parasitic draw. A new $200 battery and you are in business.

    Honestly, this could be the first of more expensive problems to come. A high voltage battery costs around $2500 and there are other issues that cost more. If you're financially able, now would be a good time to look around for a newer car. You are good for the moment considering you only need a 12 V battery.
     
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    Thanks Bisco and RJParker!
    Is this something that I can do or is it something a dealership has to do? Is there somewhere online that I can reference, including battery specs, how to do it.......I see that there are a few youtube videos ..... should I buy a Toyota OEM Prius battery or is a good aftermarket one recommended? Am I correct thinking its that small battery in the back passenger quarter panel area?
    Thanks for your answers and sorry for the noob questions!
     
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    Many auto supplies have the battery which they look up based on your model and year. Often they will install it free. The Toyota dealer will also have it most of the time but the cost will be substantially more. Call around for cost and installation.
     
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    Yes, the rear right quarter panel. Easy to do yourself if you choose, plenty of helpful videos.
    Dealer has a good one with good warranty, or auto parts stores are fine as well.
    Expect to pay around $200. Or so.
    I use this tender on the front jump point:


     
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    The install drill hasn't changed much over the years. Remove hold-down bracket, disconnect the neg cable clamp, then positive, lift battery out. Drop in new battery, connect clamps in reverse order. Have a few washers and shims on hand: the Toyota style of hold-down bracket has ZERO tolerance to any variation in height.

    There's a few fine points as well:

    Prius batteries inside the car have a vent tube you need to disconnect/connect.

    It's good to clean the inside of the cable clamps, and the posts. Don't go nuts, the clamps may have a plating surface you don't want to remove. And the posts are lead, so be careful, it's somewhat toxic.

    When tightening the clamps just one-hand it with a (10mm box wrench), snug it like you would a tap in need of a new washer, not too hard.
     
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    Thanks guys. Looks like the current price in N. NJ is $261 including a $22 core for a Duralast Platinum & 3 year warranty. I'll do it myself, seems easy.
    One other question, I saw on a video that in order not to loose dashboard mileage history and radio presets, I should connect the front charging port to a battery. Is that a good idea or not needed?
     
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    It's safe, as long as you do NOT let the positive cable for the battery to the frame.
    You could put a rubber glove, or a plastic bag round the positive cable after you
    remove it from the battery.... just to be safe...

     
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    You can do that, it’s called a memory saver. I’ve got a cable for my jump pack, has cig lighter plug at the pack, and an OBD plug at other end, with just the 12 volt pin. Has indicator light as well. It works. Still, whenever I do brakes I purposely disconnect 12 volt, to play it safe, and it’s no big deal after.
     
  11. spongebob

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    Thanks everyone who helped me. Its installed and all ready to go!
    Bob
     
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