What features would make you jump ship?

That is great, and I will applaud them once the 'concept' goes into production with the same stats.

 

Our Prius prime got totaled last week, Toyota's feature of having customers deal with dealers and price gouging is making me switch to Tesla or Chevy.

 

sorry to hear it. chevy dealers don't gouge?

 

Chevy lists price for every car at dealership, most of their EV’s are being sold at MSRP or $500 less with $7500 tax credit. Chevy website also shows window sticker of every car and price break down of dealer price, so it’s easy to filter for good price and dealer. Very unlike Toyota, especially in south where Gulf states company is the only one authorized to sell Toyota.

 

Probably because of the difference in demand, rather than ethical business practices

 

Interesting if Chevy's effort is sincere. However, truth be told...I have *never* had a good experience with a dealership of a 'USA automaker'....nor their vehicles. Maybe it is worth a relook though.

 

I haven't had a great experience with any dealership. The worst I had was with a Nissan dealership. Back when I had my Leaf I asked to get a key made and also wanted to have it converted from 2G to 3G due to AT&T's 2G sunset. They said yes and I drove through a snow storm, all 73 miles, and barely made it with any charge left, just to be told they couldn't even make another key fob. They didn't tell me until I was already there. So I was stuck at a Level 2 charger for 4 hours. Thankfully the weather cleared and we made it back fine.

I don't know if I can blame dealerships for price gouging. I hate it very much, but if people are willing to pay for something, what can you do. I don't see any difference between dealerships price gouging and people selling their used cars for almost new prices. As a used car buyer, anyone selling a used car is basically the same as the dealership to me.

 

Have not read the replies…still waking up. Scotty Kilmer just did s utube video on a new Corolla hybrid…was too darn early hearing that voice lol.
Guessing that uses the prior gen prius engine maybe thu…other than not being a hatch back would address the ever lowering height of each new gen prius with maybe more relaxed seating ergos. Course one loses all the benefits of no rear hatch sadly.

 

Oh man I just watched that review and remembered why I stopped watching Scotty Kilmer...

23 grand for a new Corolla hybrid has to be pretty compelling if the Prius "name" isn't the primary concern.

I could be wrong but the engine seems to be the 2ZR-FXE...isn't that the same one used in the current Prius?

 

I think that is one and the same as the gen 4... it might have some mods in the corolla..
Our 06 civic hybrid was 24k... my accountant didn't like the way the 06 prius looked.. I was how do I say, just a bit disappointed when I got the news while away in FL.... she says she got her monies worth out of the car, I guess that's all that matters, but it turned into a huge headache / big ole moneypit for me.
I wouldn't have minded so much with an 06 insight...

 

Now, there may be differences in tuning and improvements in the newer ones that happen with time, but the 'core' of the engines are the same between the two models.

The Corolla got the 1.8L from the gen4 Prius. In Europe, the hybrid also had the 2L as an option. That 2L is going into the gen5 Prius.

 

Now that the pricing of the 2023 Prius is out ( and many of us are disappointed ), the Corolla hybrid looks like a heck of a 'deal'. I'm afraid to say that while I love the new Prius, it is quite a bit more than I want to pay.

 

Interesting..I had to go digging on the Toyota Ireland site to find the 2.0. It's only an option on the Corolla GR hatchback and the CH-R GR, and makes 6bhp more in the CH-R

 

And BTW - Here is the Scotty Kilmer video about the Corolla hybrid mentioned above ( sorry )...

 

Part of Toyota's plan to keep the Prius viable as a product is to take it more upscale. Of course, that means higher price.

I'm guessing the different countries in Europe are like the US and Canada in that Toyota varies the exact product mix. It appears the UK can choose either for all the trims of the hatchback and touring sports.

A few years ago, a poster somewhere in the EU mentioned getting the 1.8L as a company car, because the 2L's CO2 emissions missed some incentive limit.

 

Not available in the uk so we have no choice.
Do you have a link to the poster?

 

Not to the poster. Was years ago.

This site makes it appear both are available.
https://www.toyota.co.uk/new-cars
Just to be clear, I was responding to a post about the engine choices for the Corolla hybrids.

 

So mention of the prius in your post was a mistake. .

 

I had quoted to different posts in #116. One was talking about the Prius, and the other the Corolla. The software here cut the quotes from a post when the post is quoted, which could confuse the discussion following.