Official 2023 Toyota Prius Pricing, Packages, & Options

Yeah, in areas I most often drive, the lower ground clearance on Gen5 can be a deal breaker, especially with the updated price tags. And more importantly, comfort and efficiency may not be good enough for me. The styling, speed, power, and handling... are all nice on paper to look at, but nothing I will need on my daily driver. If the Rav4 Prime price does not come down, maybe hope for the Carolla Cross Prime in the future?

 

i won't even consider a prime with low profile or 19" tires.

if that's the case i will be moving on. i hope they have great success with prius newbies!

 

The Gen5 actually had a higher ground clearance at 6". That's for the XLE and Limited trims. Not sure about the LE.

 

Big wheels seem to be the norm for BEVs. More so than other car types.

The LE is lower. The tires have a smaller diameter; about a half inch.

 

Oh, really! I thought I read somewhere that all Gen5 hugs ground for better performance. I wonder what the ground clearance for the Gen5 Prime will be. If it is the same as the regular Gen5 and 6", then that would be a major "improvement" over the current Gen4 PP which I think has only 4.7" ground clearance, IRRC.

 

Seems like they’re pushing the limits with the OD disparity; this’ll be throwing off odo, speedo and gearing??

With previous gens there were diff rim sizes but tire OD’s stayed close.

 

They lowered the centre of gravity. But not ground clearance. That's good engineering. (Mind you some of that improvement came from bringing the roofline lower.)

 

Hugging the ground is writers referring to driving performance. You could probably find the phrase in reference to Porsche SUVs.

It's 49.1 mph to 50 mph for the bigger wheels. The gen5 OD is 2 inches more than the gen4; a half inch isn't as big a difference for it.

A 195/65R17 tire would have been closer in size, but maybe less available. With tire widths and aspect ratios being in units of 5, getting the exact same OD while not diverging too much from the base tire and wheel combo is tough.

 

That's roughly 2% variation, but I'm not sure about those numbers.

Here I plugged the two sizes into a spreadsheet I've got, setting the 17" as the "base case", 100%. I also show similar for 3rd/4th gen, for comparison. As a cross-check I also plugged the two 5th gen tire sizes in to this online calculator:

 

I got the number from that calculator. The 17in tire is 1.9% smaller in diameter.

 

Yeah I think the formula I used in the X'd out box jumped the rail. The two highlighted percents below divide the smaller by the larger numbers directly above, and concur, about 1.9% variation.

 

Thanks for the charts!

However, I am eagerly awaiting the tech/engineering details. Any idea when Toyota will release them? If I recall, we did get those in previous generations.

 

The Spare tire has been replaced with a Patch kit according to a couple different videos online. There goes the 7m Flat to Spare on ability. When we can actually order them, I'll be requesting a Spare tire be put in as well. This "Patch Kit to save weight" is complete CRAP.

Steak

 

Meaning for extra cost, just dumped in the hatch?

When you buy a car without a spare, you're only encouraging the bums...

 

What I've been wondering that Nobody has reported yet is "Campability. Take Both front and back headrests off, Slide front seats 100% Forward and Lean back till they touch the back seat, then fold back seats down. Is it still Flat from the back hatch to the lip of the front seats drop? I know most people think of Driving, but Some of us also have to think of the Actual cargo capacity(Pax seat as above, Drivers seat Normal and everything else flat).

Secondly, Details on the Suspension system. Lifting it UP off the ground and getting an aftermarket Air ride / Adjustable systems? Some of my passengers are F*)$*)@ Heavy people. My current one creaks when they get out.

Steak

 

The odo and Speedo may not be cable driven anymore and instead be sensor digital and thus easily recalibrated. The gearing not and that could make the 17” wheeled models a bit quicker off the line. A tire size change to 205/60-17 would give almost the exact same diameter as the 19” tires.

 

The wider tire would likely have a negative effective on fuel economy.
People are already lamenting the new LE doing as well as the old Eco L.

 

After all the discussion on premium gas, I'm surprised no one has noted the specs just call for 87 octane.

The gas tank is down 0.6 gallons in size to 11.3 gallons. Isn't that the size of the G4 Prime's?

I see the build option is up at Toyota.com. I like the lighter interior in the Limited trim. And I see that the port/dealer options includes an aluminum ($140) or stainless steel ($200) catalytic converter cage (installation not included). In my area south of Philadelphia in Delaware converters are getting stolen daily so that might be desirable. Of course the scum would probably vandalize the car in frustration.

 

I noted the octane in another thread. What I didn't check is if the US power specs match those for Japan or Europe.

Toyota might be using the same tank size between the plug in and hybrid to save costs this time. With over 50mpg, a slightly smaller tank won't be noticed by most.

The 87 octane comes from this document Danny had posted in one of these threads.
https://attachments.priuschat.com/attachment-files/2022/12/230557_2023_Toyota_Prius_Product_Information_Final_12052022.pdf

91 RON and 87 AKI are essentially the same octane. Someone missing the change of RON to AKI for a US market document wouldn't be a very low probability error. Pretty sure I've seen the mistake on early gen1 Tundra window stickers.

I guess we know where the AWD components are now being placed.