Wait - Tesla braking isn't regenerative?

I can't say what's going on modernly, but as of 2017? Our model x? All you had to do was let off the accelerator and you would be able to watch your passengers heads tilt forward from the regeneration - if you even bothered to let off completely, which you virtually didn't need to do. Actual brakes? hard to say as they were seldom needed once below 10 mph.
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I got my first drive on 2022.36.20 today and noticed that brief, 1-2 second, assisted mechanical assist had gone away. My test case is a fairly steep hill cresting at 40 mph descending to a stop light controlled intersection. But today with the new software, no gentle mechanical braking.

You might read the release notes to see what has changed: Software Build v11.0 2022.36.* | Tesla Owners Online Forum

Bob Wilson

 

Seems Toyota and Tesla chose different approaches to building a different kind of car. The Tesla drives like a different kind of car, and that decision pays off in the form of a low-complexity brake system.

Toyota went for a high-complexity brake system that takes your pedal inputs as suggestions and then discusses them with the powertrain to decide what to do, and that pays off in a car that drives like other cars, where backing off the go pedal just feels like coasting, and using the brake pedal feels like slowing.

Diff'rent strokes.

 

have to? or if you 'want' to. Yes - if you want less regen and enjoy diminishing brake pads and rotors ... yes .... you have such a setting - and users are free to knock themselves out. And their brakes. And their rotors.
Choices are good - right?
One might think of it as a light switch in a room. Some person may want to turn it out when they leave the room and think of it as wasteful to not turn it off. My better ½ on the other hand prefers to have a higher electric bill & not have to bother turning lights back on when she reenters. (Sigh)

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Agree. I gather that would make it impossible to have both regenerative moderate braking and a free-rolling neutral state both conveniently accessible, except by fine-tuning accelerator position to achieve the latter.

 

I just shift into "N" when it is safe. That is what I did with our former Prius too.

Bob Wilson

 

Perhaps you might consider renting a Tesla for a few days to learn how it really works.

Bob Wilson

 

Yeah, they cheaped out hard and declared "luxury."

You should see what the emperor wears on weekends.

 

Seeing how they have blended braking through the accelerator, I wouldn't say they cheaped out in this area. If the battery is fully charged, the system will apply friction brakes as the accelerator is released at a rate to simulate the regen braking. The last thread on this topic is maybe a year old.

Other areas

 

Since you were so ‘shocked’ by something Tesla has done for over a decade, perhaps you shouldn’t make so many assumptions?

 

does the ev6 keep the paddle shifter in a stationary position like a turn signal stalk? driving the Chevy Volt, it's built right onto the steering wheel so if you're in a good amount of turn radius you can't find it because it may be at the bottom or top of the steering wheel. can you imagine trying to find your turn signal stalk if you have it in the wrong position? every turn? Now THAT was an odd engineering decision.
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As odd as Toyota's cruise control