Featured Renters with EVs face charging dilemma in cities

All that's needed for home charging is a 240V, 20A or 40A outlet in the garage or outside near the driveway. A couple hours work for an electrician plus parts. The car owner can provide their own charger with cable for a few hundred bucks. Mine runs on both 120V & 240V, but I could have saved the money and purchased the dedicated 240V charger, since there's already a Level 1 charger that came with and stays in the car.

 

Do you want the feds to pay for everything. Do you think you're Toyota?

Depending on the car and usage schedule. Level 1 might be all that is needed.

 

Are you assuming that each of the 150 EV owners would have their own assigned parking space with their own L2 charger. Or would people share chargers?

If their own charger, then it might be reasonable that they somehow share in the cost. It would also be reasonable that some innovative multi-charger design allow for lower amperages when many are plugged in at once...i.e. two or four chargers share total amps.
ChargePoint has had this capability for many years at least in terms of one pedestal with two cables that share.
Tesla does this for Superchargers as well.

Mike

 

There are about 250 EVs in our lot today. I'm assuming there would be sharing of chargers by moving out of the space after 4 hours to allow someone else 4 hours.

 

No. I'm just highlighting how minuscule that amount is in relation to the cost of electrifying the fleet. Costs will vary a lot across the country, but if the average charger costs even half of what it costs us to install, the cost of providing 1 charger for every 4 cars in the US fleet of passenger cars would be around $1 - $2 trillion, depending on the mix of Level 2 and DC chargers. If those cars get 5 miles/kWh it will require 12% more electricity than we produce today.

 

The feds aren't the only source for funding. Neither was that likely the sole source from them.

Yes, it will cost. We should have started paying years ago. Sticking with the status quo isn't an option, and hydrogen would cost even more.

 

You really think that will happen? People moving when fully charged. In the rain, snow, cold, heat, dark.

 

I think people like money more than laziness and selfishness. $20 an hour after 4 hours should do the trick.

 

Just a small nit: Sticking with the status quo is an option. Everything is an option in every situation. It's all a matter of choices and consequences. What you mean is that you feel the government should prevent its subjects from having a choice in the matter. Free choice is only acceptable if the options are government-reviewed and pre-approved. Everybody is entitled to their opinions and beliefs, but let's just be clear about what they are.

That being said, forced solutions to problems are rarely the best solutions (and often not even good solutions). The government handing out my money to their corporate benefactors and PAC donors is unlikely to yield any real effective result. They will swallow up all that money and produce next to nothing faster than you can say Telecommunications Act of 1996.

 

Should freon have been addressed in the market?

 

Where I am (IA), even apartments catering to more upscale renters and employers who have high-income long-term temporary employees (hospitals with their locum physicians) don't provide even level 1 charging. They don't get that there is a potential value in this (&/or think it is even a hassle to consider how). One of the basic things government support could very cheaply do in areas where going electric is not part of the common social conversation is to create even a single position that goes around and shows the benefit and eases the way to adding infrastructure to these private property owners who might fill the gap for renters. It's a different kind of greasing the wheel than throwing tax incentives/rebates/etc at the problem. Think of someone with the knowledge to facilitate the change going to a hospital and saying you want to add benefit to attract providers and make locums want to sign for another 6 months, here is one way you can do this on the cheap. Hey, upscale apartment complex, want to add an attractive lure to your property that keeps your occupancy rates low? Here's how you do it. Hey, multi-business rental property do you want to attract and retain businesses? Here is a low cost way to cater to the business owner and their employees and customers.

Of course, we don't allow Tesla to sell directly in our state (only dealerships under our laws). Our ethanol-spiked gas is relatively cheap. Our population has a smaller portion that embraces change and cares enough about climate change to embrace being the one to buy a Prius Prime, Tesla, Mustang EV, Bolt EV, etc. We also so under-fund mass transit options that only a small portion of the population has no choice but to spend two hours getting from where they are to the hub and then to their destination. But we have those e-scooters now, so we can say we are doing something /s.