All New 5G 2023 Prius Reveal - Livestream @ 11/15 11:30 PM EST

Please remember this is a global review which usually shows the top specification. History has shown Toyota offers multiple specifications (one that offers maximum efficiency). We just have to be patient until the official North America specifications are released.

 

As for someone who has the Gen2 and Gen3 this is very tempting, but I want Tesla badly... Just need the pricing to figure out everything else.

 

Tesla was recently (yesterday, I think) ranked 19 out of 24 in quality. Toyota and Lexus were 1 and 2.

 

Well, they finally did it. The new Prius can be looked at without wincing. Like the interior pics so far too. I took out a new Corolla hybrid for the first time. Took it back after a few miles and said "Nope, not again. I did my 8 years and I won't do another. Camry hybrid experience I did like, and almost bought one. Then a Highlander hybrid, but $$$$. The extra HP should help this one out, anxious to read some reviews.

 

Tesla is expensive right now and the range is not the best. Reliability issues are starting to show up and they cannot do much about it. Its the vehicle you either want it or not..

On the other hand Prius is reliable and will last years past the warranty costing 2x less than cheapest Tesla.

 

Even though looks don't matter, I think my 2017 Prime looks better than these (I just now went and looked at the pictures).

 

Yes, I was commenting on the claim of narrower tires having worse rolling resistance than wider.

 

19" tires .... yea - very fancy schmancy .... but not suited for potholes - sadly existing in most areas which are seriously in want for repairs - month after month yet not getting taken care of.
Can't wait to see how long folks alignments last in conditions like this. perhaps it will require purchasing an entire set of new tires and wheels more appropriately Suited for such conditions.

 

Huh, missed this…

I was wondering about the solar roof sidebar.

Toyota claims that this variant has 50 per cent more EV driving range than the previous model but has not yet released a specific range number."
So 25 to maybe 37, impressive but still less than RAV4 Prime though.

"The new Prius is also equipped with a solar charging system that generates enough power for up to 1,250 km (776 miles) of driving per year. Electric power generated while the vehicle is parked is used to charge the drive battery. The system also supplies electricity for the air conditioning and other functions."

Well, solar charging is interesting but 776 miles per year means 2 miles a day. So if you park outside at work, I guess EV range of 37 + 2 miles.

 

Yet stat's show conquest sales for Tesla are often coming from Prius owners. That's got to be frustrating and inexplicable to those that don't get it.

Gen 5 may actually halt the sales hemorrhaging - providing Toyota opens up sales to all of the USA - as well as stops the obscene dealer markups.
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It's true that I don't get it. I don't get why people will spend so much money on cars that are poorly built.

Who Makes the Most Reliable New Cars? - Consumer Reports

Toyota #1 at 72 points, Tesla #19 at 40 points.

 

I'm with Lee. Looks are seldom good enough or bad enough to sway my buying decision. I've owned many cars that were (at the time) considered ugly, and drove the 2002 Prius daily for 17 years. I had an F150 stepside 4x4 pickup that was painted fuchsia with gray accents. I took a lot of razing in the 10 years that I drove that one. On the plus side, you can spot a purple/pink 4WD pickup in a crowded parking lot from half a mile away.

I'm not excited by the body style of the Gen5. It looks like it has unnecessary features in the front and odd curves in the back too. I HOPE that they don't compromise on driver visibility. Fortunately, the addition of a blind spot monitor system and the cross traffic radar makes visibility a little less critical. I have to admit that I was spoiled by the fishbowl visibility of the gen1 Prius.

I do like the G5 specs so far. The 50 mile per charge range should be just about perfect for a non commuter. I've only exhausted the Prime battery while running errands once this year. I'm interested in the faster acceleration of the G5, but mainly because it would tend to shut up friends who think that a 12 second zero to 60 is anemic.

As far as the roof solar goes... there are days that I only drive a couple of miles so it would be interesting to see the battery topped off every time I get in, even if I did not plug it in.

 

Studies have been done that indicate humans subconsciously react positively to certain shapes and proportions (symmetry) instinctively. Of course as humans we can override those instincts and factor-in other considerations.

Ask any spouse globally.

 

It makes sense for Prius owners to be attracted to BEVs, but the cost of ownership for a Tesla is rather high. It appears that the only real reason to go for a Tesla is if you can get free power through one subsidy or another.

Please, Hill. Enlighten us as to why you, as a Prius driver, would trade in your Prius for a brand new Tesla as opposed to an EV/PHEV from another maker such as Volvo, Hyundai/ Kia, etc.

 

are there cupholders?

 

I know city budgets are constrained but what does that say when the roads in Kabul, the capital city of Afghanistan. look so much better?

 

Two years ago I was convinced my next car would be a BEV but lately I’ve come to realize that there are a couple of big problems with them right now and it’s not range or where they’re made. The problems are cost and availability. There just isn’t a large enough battery supply to allow manufacturers to offer cheaper models. They have to put them into models that make them the most money. That has made most BEVs into rich boys toys. Toyota has taken a lot of heat of late for not being fully into BEVs but I believe their long term strategy has always been to transition into them as it became possible to build lots of them at prices we can actually afford. That will be several more years in coming so for me the new Prius Prime will likely be our 4th Prius. It looks great, will be fast and I’ll not need to burn much gas.

 

it will be interesting to see what it costs compared to bev's currently on the market.

i could have had a prime as low as 22k at one time, that isn't likely to happen

 

I owned a Tesla Model S and have owned several Toyota/Lexus products. From experience, it appears Tesla makes attractive cars however, it is the quality assurance and manufacturing process that results in poor scores. As a former Quality Assurance manager in manufacturing, this is usually the result of inconsistent part tolerances which impact gaps and trim in the assembly process. These QA issues result in greater noise, rattles, etc.

Every BMW vehicle I have owned has a factory signed QA checklist and a dealership signed QA inspect list. Those considering a Tesla should pause and ask Tesla for those same documents. You will be disappointed but hope you are lucky enough to get a good vehicle from their production lines.

 

Well, Toyota finally did it. After years of sitting on the fence I'm seriously considering getting one. Car looks good and 220hp is significantly more than I expected.