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Maybe just put ¾ of your trust in their wheels though

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Mike

 

Funny.

I think the pickup truck was probably designed for things like farm work many decades before SUVs existed.

Mike

 

You might prefer this new TOYOTA - joint with SUZUKI - no EV, no Hybrid, at least yet. Looks like it's got a de-tuned version of the SWIFT Sport engine - which has 103kW and 230Nm.



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WOW, looks great - maybe it'll be up to update version when I'm ready to replace my car next.

 

i hope the rear view, headrest and pillars are better

 

I like the color. I think it's called "vomit orange".

 

The issue with rear headrests in the US is because of whiplash standards, which I think are the strictest in the world. For other markets, the head rests might be lower profile, and a straight forward swap. Overseas Aveo rear headrests were near flush with the seat top when down. Much cheaper to just remove the original ones though. That might need to be done to fold the seats flat anyway.

 

I'm excited. I've had an 05, a 2010 (new generation year) and a 2016 (new generation year). So few problems. Currently I still have the 2010 and the 2016, and I don't like the 2010, I'm dying to get rid of it. 2023 may be the year...

 

It is quite ugly....maybe "Dirty Banana"

 

Agree with pillars - I don't have a problem with rear-view, and headrests are fine.

 

You have the lower profile, less protection against whiplash,
rear head rests.


The US gets head rests like these.

Both 2021 Prius by the way.

 

Ahh - I didn't realise he was talking about rear - yes, we have the lower ones - which need pulling up if I have a passenger - which is rare.

My passenger side has had a child-seat for the time I've owned it - and it's only been used a dozen times at the most. The other seat has been flat - like a mini-station wagon almost all the time.

 

Almost nobody in real life seems to dislike the look of the Prius. I've asked quite a few people out of curiosity. They might not find it the most attractive, but they certainly don't find it ugly. Some think it looks really sleek. Internet is another story.

If you are saying this in a Prius forum, you're barking up the wrong tree. Gas guzzlers that consume double or more fuel compared to the Prius are still being released into the market today.

Hybrids are an inexpensive way to reduce one's carbon footprint and should be encouraged.

 

I almost wonder if this is response to some modding practice. I know it seems weird, but thinking back to my younger days, there was a Japanese-originating modding sub-culture around the Honda Civic hatchback & Si, as well as several Isuzus and Subarus. I had an '84 RX-7 that I tinkered with a bit, and there was a whole industry around modding those vehicles that I got exposed to through seeing ways I could tinker with my beloved copper 2 seater, pop roof, Wankel-powered beauty. The SI was driven in large part to the popularity of modding Civic hatchbacks. I can't imagine the same magnitude for a Prius, given the complexity of the drive-train & difficulty improving much on things like aerodynamics with body kits, but I'm now old and stodgy so what do I know about younguns and their ways. I could see a company that tried to lure younger buyers with the Scion line throwing a line in the water even with the Prius. And if the aftermarket profit margin for these tires is very attractive, then why not offer a trim with these wheels. Add some driving light flare, and then let the buyer throw some LED lighting on/audio and blacking mods after sale, and who knows what that could produce in higher profit margin without fundamentally changing production costs.

I always thought if Toyota can offer a TRD RAV-4 that is not built on a chassis that is meant for real off-road, they might be willing to do just about anything to sell high-profit margin bling options that doesn't really improve the function it implies.

 

Not anymore. They shouldn't sell anything but Primes and EVs in the Prius anymore.

Reducing isn't good enough. We all need to go to zero. It's not that difficult to do. I'm down 93%. Next year I should get to about 98-99% reduction (compared with staying with what I was doing in the late 90s).

I owned a 2004 Prius until 2017 when I bought my Prius Prime, and I did burn a bit of gasoline this year on two road trips (37 gallons for 2700 miles). If someone would release a decent EV, I could get rid of even that but this will have to suffice until that happens. I was hoping the G5 Prius would be that (Prime base, EV option - what the G4 should have been). But it looks like Toyota is going to continue to be morons.

 

Living in IA with Midamerican Energy where 62% is Wind generation and only 34% coal or natural gas, we see few regular hybrids from Toyota, and almost no PHEVs. That was before supply-chain shortages. It was policy to ship these vehicles to CARB markets with a little trickle to areas like Iowa. Tesla (and other new EV options like Rivian) is blocked from setting up sales locations in-state due to laws protecting dealerships from manufacturers predatory practices in the 20s-50s. We have crappy EV recharging infrastructure despite being one of the leading wind energy producing states. There is no recharging for renters, and almost nothing for the rare high-income rental properties. BEVs will be an option for a very small few with that infrastructure no matter how beneficial it is with our electricity supply mix. And that is IF there was actual vehicles coming to dealers (not just Toyota, but KIA/Hyundai, Ford, etc.). PHEVs would be a slightly better option for homeowners, again IF there was any supply to dealers.

At this point, I'll take any and all of the above as part of the supply of new vehicles. Anything would be a huge improvement where I live. I'd love a BEV version of the Prius. I've definitely looked at the Ford & Kia/Hyundai BEV options. We can't get them and they we don't have anything close to the charging infrastructure here for most use cases. Throw me a PHEV Prius even as a renter in IA with meager charging options, and I'll take that in a hot second despite knowing that it would not be attractive to someone not really committed to reducing their carbon footprint. But unless there is a huge tax credit (which is unlikely under the new law's requirements) I highly doubt too many in IA would find a PHEV meets their needs even if they have some concern with gas prices and climate change.

I get that we've now passed the tipping point boundary, and it concerns me a whole lot. I am not typical of the people who live around me. An all-of-the-above with more spending on charging infrastructure, battery manufacturing capacity, alternative storage solution research, and incentives that move toward accurately pricing the full cost of gasoline is a huge improvement over current trends outside CARB states. I am hopeful about this election's Gen Z participation rate, that at least the Democratic Party will start really climbing on board making climate change a top priority in every election. But the reality, in my state, the political environment is controlled by the anti-mask, anti-vax, anti-public good if it doesn't fit with your individual opinion crowd. We need more production of Hybrids with incentives, more production of PHEVs with higher incentives, and more production of BEVs with much higher incentives, as well as better taxing to include full costs for purchasing gasoline, and huge programs to improve charging infrastructure. Look at election results in IA and a few similar states that did not dampen the "red wave" much, and the reality is we need any and all of the vehicle options we can get. Even with a more favorable political climate, we'd need any of all of the vehicle options we can get. For me, I'll likely end up looking at NY, MA, CA, etc to buy a replacement vehicle for my '06 Prius when supply returns to something like pre-2021 supply levels.