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Prius 2010 cannot reset tire pressure warning

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Care, Maintenance & Troubleshooting' started by whataboutbob, Oct 2, 2022.

  1. whataboutbob

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    So, I found that Costco tire centers in CA can replace and program the TPMS sensors from their shops, CA law requires all tire shops to provide this service, they run about $45 for one and $15 for labor, so for all 4 sensors will be $240 + tax. If you bring your own sensors, they won't be able to program them, so keep that in mind if you get cheaper ones from say Amazon or some other place.
     
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    That's a weird thing for them to say. The sensors themselves are not programmable. They are just dumb transmitters with a fixed ID number that is burned in at the factory and printed on the case.

    What you're doing when you "program" a new TPMS sensor is you are programming the fixed ID number of that new sensor into the car. You're not "programming" the sensor at all.

    To do that programming, all you need to be able to do is read the ID number printed on the sensor (no matter who sold it), or wave a receiver wand over it and pick up the ID from its radio transmissions.

    Obviously, you need to buy sensors compatible with the car's TPMS receiver, so the car can receive what they transmit. Which means any compatible sensor that the car can receive from, the tire shop's receiver wand can also receive from.

    Maybe you can find some other tire shop that doesn't make that weird claim?

    My local Discount Tire charged $0 for labor when I showed up with my own sensor. Maybe that's because I'm an established customer and got my tires there, but anyway, no complaints about the price. :)

    I wonder if Costco is doing some oddball thing like using special cloneable sensors, where they read the ID number off your old one and program that into the new one, and avoid changing the ID that's registered with the car. Sort of like some locksmiths do with cloneable chip keys.

    But I don't really know why I would prefer that over using the original kind of sensor, and just putting its new ID into the car.
     
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    When you're changing your tires you have the guy that's dismounting your tires screw on the new sensors even at the cheap-nice person place where I go they try to charge $7 for screwing on the sensor no problem really The sensors cost $36 if I have to pay 7 bucks a piece for them to screw them on so be it usually I don't and then I can go by any tire store and drive right to the back and usually get any old tech to walk out and wave as wand across my tires for me and hand them 10 bucks or a beer or whatever and that usually ends that 240 I don't think so and if I'm already buying tires at Costco or what have you there you go. 240 is outrageous I'd never do that I'd let the yellow light stay on till the end of time where I live I took a sawzall and cut squares in my old tires on my other wheels and mounted my sensors and then took the tires to get mounted
     
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    I ran into the same issue a year ago, and evaluated 3 options at that time:

    1. Toyota dealer, about $1000 to replace all 4 TMPS sensors.
    2. Costco, 4 sensors for about $200/$260 with/without new tire purchase and installation.
    3. DIY battery replacement.

    I chose option 3.
     
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    So I'm guessing that you believe the Pacific orm units on e bay or Amazon are fake or such at 36.99 set of four . Interesting. They all have like same numbers and that silly thing you scan with you're phone on each unit. We did this for about 86 dollars including the 4 pacific units w green in the logo just like factory units removed . I saved pics .
     
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    They may work very well. Based on my limited understanding, the ID's need to be synced to the car. I don't have such a tool so that's not an option for me.

    By replacing the batteries, I kept the original TPMS sensors and didn't need to do any ID swapping or relearning.
     
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    Could you recommend a website and/or YouTube on that process?
     
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    There are many on Youtube. Here is one.
     
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    The video starts with the transmitter removed from the wheel and on the workbench for disassembly.

    Given that I don't have a tire mount/dismount tool, I would end up relying on somebody else having tools I don't have anyway. And the same tire shops that have mount/dismount tools also have tools to register the transmitter IDs, so it's easy as pie for them to do the job.
     
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    Can you provide a link to such an item on eBay?
     
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    The sensor can be removed and restalled without using a tire tool. As I mentioned in my original post, it is a DIY, and not everybody wants to do it.

    Here is a video on how to take the sensor out from a tire without using a tire tool.
     
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    I was going to say you're going to have to break the bead somehow and all that so there you go. I have an extra set of wheels and tires not an extra set of TPMS sensors but an extra set of wheels and tires with tires on them when my last set of good tires on my other alloy rims that stay on the car wore out the fastest thing I could think of to do was take my sawzall and just cut a little square hole in the tire a flap pull that open undo the nut reach my hand in and pull the tire sensor out Mount the new tire sensor in If you're so inclined write the number down I did this with the four wheels and tires then I took those wheels and tires with the other tires mounted on my car so it can drive and took those four wheels and tires that I just cut the holes in to have my new tires mounted on the rims with the TPMS sensors I just installed. I don't really have capability at my house to break down tires remove said tire from rim and all that A buddy owns a tire shop right down the street so I just usually go to him. And now that I think about it another way you could do it probably even cleaner is take a 3-in hole saw and just put a hole in the tire right where the sidewall meets the tread zing right at that angle just above the TPMS sensor or the Schrader valve fill hole where you put air.
     
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    The video in #31 is clever, using the car jack upside down under the car to break the bead on one side. I guess I could try that some day, if my local Discount Tire raises their price for the job above the $0 they charged last time.

    But I probably won't be scraping the battery out of the old transmitter. I find enough other useful reasons to have Techstream or another good scan tool around, so programming a new transmitter ID isn't a big deal.
     
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    Yeah good video. This screen-grab illustrates the simple/crucial difference in the Honda scissor jacks, a U-shaped bent plate with two holes, for connecting the torsion bar, versus Toyota's single-hole, soft-cast-metal style.

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    Breaking the bead of a tire is not a big deal once you tried it. After replacing the TPMS batteries in my Prius, I liked the process so much that I added 4 TPMS sensors in my 2002 Odyssey (which didn't have TPMS sensors).
     
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    Presumably it could read them? Used in different parts of the world maybe.
     
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    Yeah. I used a standalone TPMS system. The tire pressures are displayed on my windshield so that I don't need to use a tire pressure gauge to check tire inflation.
     
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    Link to the standalone TPMS system and how much?
     
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    Depends. Probably around $40 on Amazon, and $20 on AliExpress.
     
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    Interesting, this is the setup I used to break the bead on tires I was taking off some rims I bought. Used a 2" wide ratcheting tow strap and a scissors jack. Good idea to put that short piece of wood between the jack and the tire. The black scissors jack doesn't show up very well in the picture. 20200214_144727.jpeg

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