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  1. Rararasputin

    Rararasputin New Member

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    May seem stupid but I am having a hard time finding the difference between SR and LR. I see it mentioned with Tesla frequently?
     
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    They stand for “short range” "standard range" and “long range”. It refers to the all electric range of EVs. The SR will have the aller battery on offer and thus a shorter range. The LR will have the largest battery on offer and provide the longest range.
     
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    3PriusMike Prius owner since 2000, Tesla M3 2018

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    Actually, I think it is standard range and long range

    Mike
     
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    Once I am done with my MINI, I will likely be looking at a SR Model 3.
    Unless I hold out long enough to see the Model 2??
     
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    3PriusMike Prius owner since 2000, Tesla M3 2018

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    The model 2 is UR...unknown range
     
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    Tideland Prius Moderator of the North
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    Bah, you're right lol. It is standard range.
     
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    My MINI has a 112 mile range and works perfectly for my needs. I doubt the Model 2 will have less range than that.
     
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    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    My understanding:
    • 55 kWh battery - standard range Model 3
    • 75 kWh battery - all others
    GOOD LUCK!

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    Does anyone have a TESLA publication that specifies a specific battery capacity for each model that is currently in production? Everything I find online says that the battery will be whatever they are installing at the moment. ** One of Tesla's big advantages over all normal manufacturers is that they can change the car design mid day and change it again before midnight. No published specs means that people can't sue Tesla when it does not meet expectations.

    Does everyone remember the unanticipated switch to LFP batteries when there was a shortage of NCA batteries during the pandemic? The result was shorter range with heavier batteries, but they fit in the space allocated for the long range batteries and SHOULD have a longer lifespan.

    ** INsideEV lists battery capacities that are guessed at by reverse engineering and making assumptions about the capacity, battery management, efficiency, etc. Here Are The 2022 Tesla Model 3 EPA Range And Efficiency Ratings
     
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    They’ve gone up since then. My understanding is that the current crop SR is near 64kWh and the LR is near 78kWh.

    Probably because he didn’t want legacy manufacturers to offer larger batteries than his cars (even though their ranges are lower because they’re not as efficient as Teslas). They went up as soon as the ID.4 and Korean cars went on sale in late 2021.
     
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    There had been an earlier report that Tesla always claimed a range that included the invisible reserve. A software change might have made that reserve visible?

    I've reached single digit mile range on my Model 3 but never dipped into the undocumented reserve. There are some experiments refrain from testing.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    I’m not sure. I just remember reading about the increase but because it’s from journalists rather than owners or the Tesla owners club, I don’t know the details as to how the increases in capacity were achieved.

    That said, the SR was obviously due to a change in battery composition to LFP.
     
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    When Edmunds didn't reach the EPA range of Teslas in their test, Tesla's response was that the official range includes battery capacity available after the range gauge hits zero. Edmunds then tested this on a track.
    Testing Tesla's Range Anxiety: Tesla Model Y, Model 3, VW ID.4, Ford Mach-E | Edmunds
     
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    Ah thanks! So a 2018 Prius Prime be neither as it is not all electric. Kona or ID4 (and some Tesla) would probably be LR and a lot of the rest of the current lot mostly SR?
     
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    No, these are not standardized terms. Tesla labels their cars this way, no one else does.
     
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    Every manufacturer will have their own way of labelling it. VW uses "Pro" for the bigger battery (e.g. ID.4 Pro)

    Funny enough, Hyundai and Kia uses that nomenclature in Canada. We don't have SE/SEL/Limited or Light/Wind like the US models.
     
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    I wouldn’t be surprised to see a lot of companies using those terms.
    If the Volt were still being made, I could see GM referring to a 40 mile version as SR and a 64 mile version as LR.
    Just noting for the OP that one company’s ‘Long Range’ has nothing to do with another.
     
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