Featured 2023 Toyota bZ3 Sedan Leaked

will it come as standard equipment? or will buyers have to pay extra for the tire & wheel ejection system.

 

studs or bolts?

looks a little tesla-ish, but there's no demand for bev's, so i doubt they will produce it

 

Is this the one that Toyota is getting slammed for not producing in that other thread?

 

i suppose they might make one for china, customers are beating down the doors there.

the grille is almost reasonable

 

The slamming is over them saying there isn't anyone to buy it.

This is getting released in China first. An article on the bZ4X Lexus sibling said they designed these EVs for the Chinese market. China is the biggest market for EVs, but they also had EV mandates for the longest time. Toyota's upper management likely still views the plug ins they make as compliance cars.

 

I've got 79,225 miles on my 2019 Tesla Model 3 Std Rng. Sounds like this won't be a replacement candidate.

Bob Wilson

 

It seems that every day someone announces another new EV. And every few weeks they build a car and sell it. The Ioniq 5 just got $7,500 more expensive. Tesla raises prices every few weeks. And the Bolt won't qualify for the tax break till next year. And so it goes. I think I'll quit wasting time studying up on purchase options until purchase is possible.

And this one will probably not be for sale here anyway. Scores or even hundreds of people on EV waiting lists at every dealer that offers teases EVs and we're still not considered by some to be an EV market.

Sorry. Had to vent a little.

 

You still believing the lies Toyota is telling you? There's unprecedented demand for electric cars, so much so that Toyota can't even compete in the Chinese car market unless they sell electric cars. And no amount of Toyota disinformation about people not wanting electric cars is going to contain this problem in China. It's going to spread to every country in the world and Toyota's business model is going to fail if they don't wake up to this truth:

"A new study from Experian shows that registrations for electric vehicles shot up 60% in the first three months of 2022. Interest in buying an electric vehicle soared 70% since January, according to a report by Recurrent, a car industry analysis company." EVs Are in High Demand. But There Is a Big Problem (The Battery) - TheStreet

 

Always a good day when the newest Toyota car design is less ugly than the last. Of course if this car wasn't the same color as the black trim it might look way uglier than it at first seems.

 

Go try to buy a BEV and you'll find out just how long the waiting list is. Every dealer that teases a BEV has a huge waiting list. They could be selling them like hot cakes if they'd make them.

 

I wouldn’t even attempt to buy a car in this insane market. When things settle down (a few years?) I will start a bev search. Until then, keep on pipping!

 

But Toyota says there's no demand?

"Despite all of this, Hollis, whose company currently sells no BEVs in the United States, thinks he knows better than governments, the public, and companies that actually produce EVs. Hollis claimed: "It took 25 years to get to less than 10% (market share) for hybrid … The consumer isn’t demanding (EVs) at that level." This is not the first time Toyota has shown ignorance and opposition to the EV market. Executives at various levels in the company have made similar public statements in the past, up to and including Akio Toyoda, the CEO. The company routinely greenwashes and spreads scientifically illiterate anti-EV propaganda, while lobbying against human life and indoctrinating kids against EVs." https://electrek.co/2022/08/25/toyota-says-no-ev-demand-try-selling-one-wheels-dont-fall-off/

 

let's face it, if parts are in short supply, toyota, (and many others) are going to produce the cash cows.

can't say i blame them, it's business, not charity

 

Just because something is easier to produce doesn't doesn't mean people will continue to buy it, especially if something better comes along... And truth is, in all markets in past 2 years Toyota has sold far fewer cars. What's more they can't sell any of their cars in the Chinese market so they had to build all electric ones just to be able to sell in that market. Toyota motor vehicle sales by region | Statista

And your comment the other day about how slow Toyota is at welcoming changes to their product lineup helps explain the issue... Makes me wonder how low their sales numbers have to drop before they realize China isn't the only market that's going to ban sales of their fossil fool powered vehicles.

 

pretty sure he was talking toung-in-cheek.
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I just read a post from a guy who was offered a '22 Rav4 XSE hybrid which lists for $42k. But used with 10k miles on it. And $52k Canadian price. The wait times are measured in years up there, not months and this for a simple hybrid. Not a plug-in. Not a EV.

 

I guess they don't know their audience.

 

Now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure, too.