RAV4 Prime Real World Range

Where do you find an available RAV4 Prime?

 

Wow, just spitballin here since I've not even seen a Rav Prime yet. My thinking is that if it were me in your position, I'd think hard about the position I'd be in to trade in a Rav Prime on a next gen Prius - bZ4X or other when we all see what those offer in the way of Price / Performance.
Do the math on the potential resale, keeping in mind the the Performance of the Rav Prime is not going to be as astounding as it is with the smaller P Prime, than punch in your data and try to gets some estimates on what the possible turnaround might look like in a year or two.
I've been a drive it till the wheels fall off kinda person for many years, but that still doesn't stop me from looking ahead to see what might be coming up ahead or around the next curve.

 

Selling your PP for a profit may be easy, but finding a Rav4Prime may not. Even if you find one, at your location, wouldn't it likely to have markup tacked on?

I just talked to someone who bought Rav4Prime recently and asked about his EV range. He said he could get up to 50 miles in the warmer season but has plummeted in winter down to 30 miles. Overall, just about the average 42mils EPA EV range. That translates to something like 3.4miles/kWh in summer, 2.1miles/kWh in winter. The EPA rating is 42miles, and assuming 14.5kWh of usable battery, that's only an average of 2.9miles/kWh. That is quite a bit down from PP's efficiency for sure.

 

For reference, EPA shows 2.8 miles/kWh on the RAV4, vs 4.0 miles/kWh on the Prius:

 

$30K for PP LE is amazing, but I think I saw someone posted $32K for his 2021 PP LE. That's the same amount and the best offer I can get on my PP Ltd around here. Yeah, I am preparing to sell my PP Ltd at that price while the offer is still on the table. I just can't decide either to go with PHEV or go for a BEV. I made a reservation for Subaru Solterra, but the final price has not been announced yet. It is predicted to be starting around 45K, which is far more than what I want to pay for a daily driver. But similar to you, with the gain on the sales of PP and a new tax credit of $7500, the price is only $5-6K.

I am also thinking of trading in my PP to a Leaf SV with some money back in my pocket. Alternatively, I can upgrade my PP to Rav4Prime. But the price range for Rav4Prime is very similar to Solterra or bZ4X or EV6 or MachE. With Rav4Prime SE base price MSRP at $41015, a $43500 is hardly a markup especially if the price reflects dealer installed options. Most of Rav4Prime SE sold around here are starting at around $43K MSRP without markup since they come with option pkg. I can not find any inventory that is at $41015.

 

After replying above, I started thinking about the pack and if it's possible to put Rav Prime blocks in the Prius P..... So on youtube I searched Weber University Rav4 Prime and got a few hits, but not a Rav4 Prime battery breakdown by Pro John Kelly. So I clicked on this one of a guy describing the Rav4 Prime in Winter. youtu.be/TTlDdCDcjKA and one by Munro on the lift, for their good, bad and ugly review, if you're into that kinda thing. youtu.be/WDkxhNj6dW0

 

The Rav4P's combined EPA rating is a little more that 70% of the PP's.Going by that and your efficiency in the PP, 3.8 to 3.9 mi/kWh is more likely.

 

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that doesn't sound like a bad deal to me if the trade in price is right. idk how they can do that and let you keep racking up miles.
i wonder what the eta is on a new one

 

you'd certainly have to get the details.

i have read that many manufacturers are recommending factory orders, and your car is assigned by them.

 

true, and dealers are too. you can make a fortune with high margin limited supply, and servicing junk yard cars that people have to buy because the used market is so high.

 

it makes total sense. nothing wrong with testing the waters

 

except for the aggravation dealers put you through