SARS-CoV-2 Coronavirus (COVID-19)

boosters have fallen off the cliff. they might as well save them for next fall when they will liely be more necessary

 

Yep, I'm expecting them to be included in the yearly flu shot...they usually have 2-4 strains combined in them based on what's expected to break out that flu season. (Sometimes they are right, sometimes not!) China needs to burn down their Wuhan weaponized research lab! (Why haven't we, and the world, demanded this???)

 

wouldn't matter, china is china

 

My concern was in becoming a politicalized distraction, that could lead not doing what needs to be done to fight the pandemic, as people focus more on confronting China over it. The Wuhan lab would be the source if someone caught it doing the work to see if their were coronaviruses in the samples, or even by the field scientist collecting those samples. Lab acquired infections are not an unknown phenomenon. In twenty years, there were two that required hospitalization where I work, and the only nasties we have are food poisoning bacteria.

So the lab could be the source without any gain of function research, but that wouldn't stop comments like the above.

And destroying the lab won't stop it happening again in some other lab. One that doesn't even need to be in China. People have died here from accidents in research labs.

Ask Mexico how the swine flu went for them.

 

Some vaccines prevent infection like rabies, smallpox, and others reduce the severity. Both approaches lead to longer lives.

Two shots are better than one and one is better than none. Three shots are currently recommended and there are discussions of a fourth for special cases. When available, I will go for the four but you are welcome to your approach.

Just I have no use for the 'none' crowd because they saturated the hospitals and overworked the staff.

Bob Wilson

 

I met this guy who liked to do parachute jumping. One day he told me that he heard of a guy who died while jumping. "He was wearing a parachute, yet he died anyway! I'm never going to wear a parachute again." I never heard from him again.

Obviously this didn't happen. I'm just illustrating the problem with this kind of thinking.

 

I'd use the example of seatbelts. Numerous motorists have died while wearing seatbelts, so they are 'obviously' of no benefit.

The unvaxxed are still dying much faster than the vaxxed.

Indications now are that under current conditions, immunities fade so fast that we'll never reach herd immunity, natural or artificial or mixed.

That doesn't preclude the possibility of better vaccines in the future.

 

We have. I needed an urgent surgery and a significant periodic medical procedure last year, and not a single doc or nurse expressed anything aligning with your camp. The specialist I was referred to on a lesser matter was particularly happy to see me come in wearing the exact same brand/model of N95 mask that he was wearing himself.

One of spouse's best childhood friends, a recently retired public health nurse, is extremely strong pro-vaxx pro-mask and upset about mask mandate rollbacks, despite now living in Florida and otherwise politically aligning with that state's most recent electoral votes.

Relevance? There are plenty of medical scientists in positions that never directly treat patients. That doesn't discredit their particular type of work.

 

I'd estimate that 9 out of 10 anti-vaxxers got their medical advice from someone who never treated a patient, except maybe with a band-aid or an aspirin.

Mike

 

Sadly vaccinated ICU patient percentage has been on the rise. Don't remember the stats my wife said maybe last week, but it used to be 15% maybe around 35% (rough memory, somewhere in the 60s% for those unvaccinated)...

REVVL V+ 5G ?

 

fortunately, cases, hospitalizations, icu and intubations all dropping here. we don't get breakdown of vaxxed/unvaxxed.
deaths are finally starting to drop a little.

many covid rules are slowly being eased. all eyes on new variant of interest...

 

Masking rule is supposedly going to be lifted here in Los Angeles County but I hope/don't think most are going listen.

REVVL V+ 5G ?

 

same here. most people i know are going to continue to mask indoors in public places. they have gotten used to them, and the advice still holds. n95 provides a lot of protection if well fitted.

 

From my family experience, you can prevent getting it even in the same household. To be open we have a king and queen bed in our room, so we social distance (without mask) when we sleep. But on our trip we shared one king, the time period when she got sick prior to testing, about 4 days. After testing positive I slept on the couch/in another room. If I tested positive she could have blamed me for not being careful enough. But the catch was even if I didn't give it to her it would have been very likely given the conditions to catch it from her. Lucky for me neither happened because I'd suspect being blamed somehow....

N95 is horribly tight around the face. I've been using medical grade masks, looks like these . Can't stand N95 for long....

REVVL V+ 5G ?

 

we've been using halyard duckbill N95's. idk if they're more comfortable, but they don't bother me. i had to have bloodwork done the other day, and i forgot i had it on while driving home, then suddenly realized, what am i wearing this for?

 

Is that specific to a particular model? I wouldn't describe the ones I'm using that way.

 

Good points @bisco @fuzzy1. I guess it's the specific ones my wife sourced. Will have to lookup duckbill N95 thank you for sharing that!

REVVL V+ 5G ?

 

i can't guarantee they'll be more comfortable for you, might be the shape of my face
amazon:
137-0013896-8301327

they also have a 'small' size

 

This is the version I've been using (if having comfort and fit problems, start with the smaller pack for testing):
3M 9205 N95 Aura Particulate Disposable Respirator Foldable (10-Pack) 9205P-10-DC - The Home Depot
3M 9205 N95 Aura Particulate Disposable Respirator Foldable (3-Pack) 9205P-3-DC - The Home Depot

I selected this because it was readily available locally, and scored very well on MaskNerd's tests:
N95, KN95 or KF94? How to Find the Right Covid Mask - The New York Times

You can check out his test results of very many other mask models here:


A medical specialist I was referred to last fall, in private practice (outside my major network), immediately noticed that I was wearing the exact same model as him.

 

Source: Got a Covid Booster? You Probably Won’t Need Another for a Long Time - The New York Times

. . .
Antibodies recognize two or three key parts of the spike protein, a protrusion on the outside of the coronavirus that allows it to latch on to human cells. But T cells detect many more parts of the spike, and so are less likely to fail when the virus gains mutations in some of them.

Vaccines also encode a memory of the virus in B cells, which can churn out fresh batches of antibodies within four or five days after a new exposure to the virus.

This dual punch of T and B cells help explain why many people who received two or even three doses of vaccine could still be infected with the Omicron variant, but only a small percentage became seriously ill.
. . .​

Sounds good to me.

Bob Wilson