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Tire Puncture

Discussion in 'Gen 1 Prius Plug-in 2012-2015' started by PixelRogue, Nov 26, 2021.

  1. PixelRogue

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    Toyota corporate refused to discuss anything about tires, including their own tire repair kit. They insisted I talk to an individual shop to learn more.

    Spoke to service managers at three different locations. All stated that any type of sealer, including Toyota’s repair kit, makes it impossible to patch a tire. The chemical inside prevents any patch from adhering.

    All signs point to Toyota’s tire repair kit kills your tirr regardless pf the tread life left.

    Hoping someone here might be able to independently confirm or reject the notion.
     
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    I gave up on dealer service more than 10 years ago. The misses took the car into the free services, I wouldn't go near the place. Front brakes at 30k that I did myself, was the iciing on my birthday cake. Trying to understand the service dept at a dealer is beyond an exercise in futility. Happy Holidays ya'll
     
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    Apparently, the tire us a total loss. It's an expensive lesson learned.

    Get a new tire and either a full sized spare or a donut and move on.

     
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    The tire can be plugged; if the hole isn't on the tire shoulder or side-wall. It looks like you've got a challenge on your hands finding a decent tire shop that will remove the tire and actually look for the leak or sealed leak. It's not rocket science; if the leak was caused by a screw or nail - it should be easy to spot. You mentioned seeing bubbling when you used the sealer; unfortunately you didn't mark the spot.
    Good Luck finding a shop that will clean-out the flat sealer. It may be more cost effective to get a matching junk-yard rim and put a new tire on that. You can also get a more cost effective replacement sealer/pump combo @ wally world; though it won't fit in the Toyota cut-out.
    I run with a compact spare from a old corolla; a tire pump and highway plugs - the slime stuff is a last resort for me.
     
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    If you could find the leak yourself, think you could old-school, outside-only plug-repair it, DIY, without cleaning out the goop.

    Bear in mind you’re listening to a man that’s currently driving on a tire DIY plug-repaired in maybe 2012~2013, forget precisely.
     
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    This is why my Toyota goop repair kit immediately went into a drawer in the garage and got replaced by a tire patch kit and 12V compressor. And a spare asap.

    And this is what I'd have done, too if my compressor hadn't been able to keep the tire inflated long enough to get to the dealer and have it internally patched under the road hazard warranty.

    Still, that doesn't eliminate the occasional need for an actual spare tire.
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    Agree. I wouldn't do roadside plug repair unless I had to. Much easier to swap in the spare, plug-repair the flat indoors, off the car. I would never buy a car without a spare.
     
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    Senior Prius owners here convinced me early on in the wisdom of packing a 12vdc compressor, tire repair kit (plugger) and, for longer trips, a spare (thanks guys). My Toyota "fill-it-with-green-slime" kit has been relegated to a back shelf in the garage for years now.

    Makes one wonder, why in the world use a repair kit which may likely render the tire unusable... and bugger up the TMS in the process?!? And further, the OEM Toyota kit requires about $100 for a new slime canister after use.
     
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    Or a floor-style manual bicycle pump? Very simple and dependable.
     
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    Ever try buying a replacement goo bottle? My iQ had a discharged bottle in the trunk just when I thought I needed it. Be prepared to pay more than a replacement Porsche bottle, (at least last time I checked).

    Tesla's, while it was sold, is/was a much cheaper alternative. (I guess I should not have shared that, wherever I did).

    REVVL V+ 5G ?
     
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    How much are those bottles then, over $100? Rivals replacement tire cost?
     
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    The goo is as bad as run flat tires. Never want anything to do with either.
     
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    MSRP $135, comes with stickers to remind you not to drive fast and I think a valve... Screenshot_20211130-101403.jpg

    REVVL V+ 5G ?
     
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    After my wife drove one to death in our last lease, I still like them. Got her to a (safe) place where I could go and check on it. Just so happened the local America's Tire sold me road hazzard when I had the first tire rotation done by them, so replacement was free, (although you are asked to buy a new hazzard warranty).

    REVVL V+ 5G ?
     
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    You won't see them on an Prius or EV from the factory. It's the high unsprung mass and hit to MPG.
     
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    I hit some road debris yesterday and the right front tire deflated in about 1 minute.
    I have a 12 volt compressor and plug kit on board but was on the side of an interstate highway in 30° weather and would have been risking my life trying to repair the tire.

    I called for road service and had the car flatbedded home where could work on the tire safely. Sometimes even the best plans for emergencies are not going to work.

    BTW, I decided to replace all the tires since they were nearly worn out. Costco and BJs have installation dates 2-4 weeks out due to labor shortages.
     
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    You work with what you have.

    Like money; having more is better than not enough.

    I carry both the donut and a full sized spare. I also have the quick and easy to use Roybi 18 volt inflater.
     
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    There are times when discretion is the better part of valor. This sounds like one of those times.
     
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    I had a slow leak in my '21 Prime, and after 2nd visit to dealer they tell me I have a hole towards the shoulder area. They also told me I have to buy a new tire. I asked isnt it under warranty and they said no and that I didn't buy the road hazard when i bought the car. Wth.. They never mentioned that otherwise I would have gotten it. So I had to buy new tire which came out to about $160. Then came yesterday with all the rain, I guess I ran over some metal debris probably from the accidents in the morning on freeway. I got the low tire light, looked and saw the tire half flat.Found a metal piece just by the shoulder .. Wth ?? I pulled out the sissor jack and handle, jacked car up (what a messed design for handle to jack design). Pulled out my plug kit as I need to plug it so i can get to dealer. Then figured out that the tire pump that comes with car can't inflate the tire without the slime bottle ?? So hooked everything up, dumped the bottle and pumped the tire up. Got to dealer and had them put new tire on since I had road hazard on the tire. Charged me $46 for labor/tax.

    Asked how much for the bottle and they said $75+tax. I said forget it.Like other said this is as bad as run flats... which I have a story for also:mad::mad:

    I figured out, don't throw the old slime bottle away as you can now use it as a regular tire pump now. It just takes a while to pump up the pressure. I noticed it is not as fast to pump the tire as the regular small 12v compressor at autozone/wally world. Or I might get that Ryobi pump from home depot.

    RYOBI ONE+ 18V Lithium-Ion Cordless High Pressure Inflator with Digital Gauge (Tool Only)-P737D - The Home Depot

    Its on sale now for $20. good if you have the 18v battery already. Or wait till the dual one goes on sale for $40

    RYOBI ONE+ 18V Dual Function Inflator/Deflator (Tool Only)-P747 - The Home Depot

    or on sale for $30 for blemish @ DTO

    Direct Tools Outlet Site
     
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