Featured Organized Attempt to End Competition From Prius?

But it has a dent in it?

 

Exactly! I honestly can't bring myself to pay for one of these EV's...even though technically I suppose we could 'afford' one.

 

Paranoia. Look it up.


If you must obsess about something, surely you could find something more important than THAT.

 

That’s interesting.
I honestly can’t bring myself to pay for gas.
I hate the idea of putting money in Exxon’s pocket, much less other gas companies.

 

that's why i love my mint 9 year old pip. 75% electric over 75,000 miles. and the ev % just keeps growing.
(okay, there is a crack in the rear bumper )

 

I assume "5Gs" is $5,000?

Ok, so here is an option:

Bob Wilson

 

looks more like a disorganized attempt

 

Called 'the free market.'

Bob Wilson

 

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YES ... I use “G” for $$$ instead go “K”.

“G” for “Grand” ... 5Gs = $5,000 ... “otd” stands for "out the door” (all everything included).

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chicagoland stands for organized crime. perhaps that is what o/p is referring to

 

Never said I don't like the idea of EV's...just not practical to pay the premium right now for an EV that has range I would want. For now I'd rather just buy a used hybrid or possibly a used PHEV ( like the original PIP ).

 

I don't know about an organized attempt to end the Prius, that just seems like a stretch.

They're certainly a bit unfashionable, but they were never truly a contender for the sash and tiara anyhow.

Personally I've always thought the best part of the Prius was the hybrid drivetrain, and that is now available across Toyota's entire lineup. The Prius itself may be losing ground, but its cousins are doing just fine.

I don't lose sleep about burning some fuel to get around.

If I were to buy all-electric cars at today's prices, the things I'd have to do to pay for them would burn a heck of a lot more fuel than I do now with cars.

 

Haha...yeah...I don't lose sleep over burning a little fuel either. Plus, the Prius has really great emissions levels.

I also have to reply to @Zythryn. Took a look at your page, and I assure you...most "average Joes" don't have nearly the resources you do. Heck, the "car wrap" you had done on your Model Y probably cost more than some used Gen2's. I do like your setup though!

 

Some people saw the Prius as a stepping stone to ween one from gasoline use and for me, it served that purpose. The problem is, it only goes so far. I went from a Prius to a PIP, and like Bob said about the Prime, it came with compromises. I moved on to a Volt and then, to the Spark and Bolt EVs, so there's really no more compromise to using gas. I do have to thank the Prius for starting me on that path, but it didn't go far enough for me and I'm sure, others. No conspiracy, just fact.

 

My experience is the Prius was optimized for peak engine efficiency. The electric part handled the e-CVT with a limited ability to use excess Ahr for some very brief movement. The biggest advantage is keeping the ICE in an efficient power range.

Pre-EVs, the Prius was an excellent choice. But once EVs had enough range for town driving, ~50-72 miles, it was an easy choice.

Bob Wilson

 

I'll admit...the Prime ( after tax credit ) was *almost* at the price point where I would consider it....but then I said to myself....what's the point? The RAV4 Prime? Wow....sticker shock!

It almost seems like there are two groups of folks around here. The ones that want a reasonably priced driving appliance. Or those that want to 'save the planet', yada yada....I get where both camps are coming from. However, since I'm maintaining a 'fleet' of 4 vehicles right now, I'm solidly in the first group.

 

Greatest Prius enthusiasm ran parallel to how inovative the Prius is/was. Our 2004 came with unheard of features like short range low speed electric driving, metal keyless ignition, keyless door entry & a multi function /multi page display screen - all in a non luxury car! Enthusiastic times.
Wind the clock just 5 years forward, and it was presumed by many Prius drivers that Toyota would have it's gen 3 equipped with a plug, at least as an option, at least a few miles. After all, some DIY folks were actually building their own plugin pri's - out of the Gen 2 Prius.

2009 / Gen III came & went - w/out a plug. Not enthusiastic times. Owners began to bug Toyota as to why a plug was not offered. Months dragged into years & finally Toyota said, nobody wants them. That too was not an enthusiastic time.

Now, a total of what, some 17 years has passed since the reveal of the Gen 2 Prius? Toyota is still trying to tell its prospective buyers what they believe their customers want in regards to innovativeness & plugs. Other manufacturers have picked up the mantle that Toyota is only now reluctantly moving forward with.

So the enthusiasm for the Prius mindset may not be what it was, but still we have this community, and that's still something to be enthusiastic about - hoping Toyota will once again LeapFrog the competition like they did with Gen I & II.
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there is plenty of enthusiasm here, just no pie in the sky wishful thinking, or conspiracy thinking.
most prius drivers are thoughtful, deliberate and realistic.
i love my 3rd prius, but it really is a bridge. some have crossed it, some are on it, and some are approaching it

25 miles ain't bad, i only get 13, yet 90% of my driving is ev. it all depends on your situation. phevs are more about charging at home, and doing your local driving in ev, then using the engine for longer trips.
on top of that, in the great northeast, you could buy a prime for the same or less than the hybrid.
another bridge to the future

and thank you for the clarification on the organized attempt, even with the question ark, it seemed like a statement, because you didn't follow up with a theory