SARS-CoV-2 Coronavirus (COVID-19)

My understanding is DNA and the RNA equivalent can identify a specific strain. It is matching the virus surface proteins to another species that has me wondering.

Bob Wilson

 

For the COVID-19 virus, it is RNA.

 

Here is a good review to start your inquiry.
Tracing the origins of SARS-COV-2 in coronavirus phylogenies: a review
Environmental Chemistry Letters volume 19, pages769–785 (2021)

 

that sounds like a good reason, but i don't see the insurance companies putting up the raffle awards

 

That example was a basis of estimate for the costs. I suspect those who pay for uninsured medical costs consider ‘incentive’ payments for vaccinations as cost avoidance.

Bob Wilson

 

Based on what I read, vaccine incentives are likely to be less effective as they go on. From the point of view of someone who is not worried about catching COVID and either believes the vaccine could be unsafe or could be used for tracking your every move by a powerful and suspect government, some pretty serious incentives would be needed.

 

There will always be a trade off between incentives and the residual vaccine avoiders. We don’t need 100% vaccinated. Creditable sources say 70% works.

Bob Wilson

 

If not getting the bug isn't enough of an incentive, and given the current number of people who are dying with the bug, if not from the bug in the US as compared with the rest of the globe.....our best strategery might just be to stuff spare vaccinations onto military cargo planes and start giving them out in places like Mexico, Brazil, and India.
If this critter REALLY IS a shape-shifter, then the best way to stop the variants is to reduce the number of cases, which means that we should pick the fruit that's on the larger, lower branches...FIRST.
If nothing else, this will reduce the effect of the really important conundrums like wondering why the term "China Virus" is racist but "South African Variant" isn't.
On the plus side I'm guessing that the aforementioned nations are smart enough to effectively put the juice into arms without having to say "purty please" AND they're demographically less volatile to inject.

If Americans are too stupid to get at least one shot, then give the vaccine out to smarter nations and reduce the world-wide effect of the PANDEMIC, and perhaps the rate of change.
This way, even the dull witted will get some benefit.

Actual Mileage, like ACTUAL data will of course.....vary.

 

I agree with your sentiments but that paints a target on foreign aid. I would try different positive inducements until the “knee in the curve” shows it is not effective. For example, someway to sweeten the pot of organizations including churches (especially churches.) Document member vaccination percentage and match some part of their budget. ‘Money talks …’

Bob Wilson

 

currently, there is no long term data to support your insinuation that the vaccinated will live longer.

given the CDC current suggestion that you still have to stay home and wear face diapers even after getting the arm_magic, are you shrinking already ?

 

Concur....but saying that quiet part out loud gets you called names and deplatformed.

Wholeheartedly concur!
A stitch in time.....

Vehemently do NOT concur!
The REASON I got the bug and beat it lies in winning the DNA lottery and relative yout.
The REASON I got the bug back in January....meaning EARLY JANUARY freekin 2020!.... lies in the fact that the CHIComms tried to hide the ball....at least until after the CNY.
(lotsa folks travel back to their factory jobs in places like ITALY afterwards, eh? )
WE HERE IN PC were talking about Coronavirus a month before travel bans, Chinatown tours, masks being effective/ineffective/effective, and the "P" word and several months before people's social media posts were ACTIVELY BLOCKED for mentioning the possibility that it might have originated in Wuhan.

The fact that people were getting sick in Wuhan before January 2020 isn't a CCP 'thing.'
The fact that there's giant question mark about when this thing got started, or how much the WHO has prostrated themselves before their biggest client nation IS a CCP thing, and quite frankly I'm disappointed in the science and data crowd for not being a little more pissed off about it.......

(That's NOT to say that I'm surprised! )

Period.
Full Stop.

Wholeheartedly Concur!!

I am in the counter-battery zone!!
This solution would effectively end critter-to-biped transmission because it would eliminate most of the bi-peds.

 

oh, WOW.

 

Not an exact quote, for those that look at #3748.......but it is basically correct and in context.

If you need an "incentive" to get vaccinated from a disease that kills over 600,000 of your people......then you're either tragically misinformed about the human immune system or.....you're not exactly a 'crossword puzzles in ink' kind of person.

But then....I'm old enough to remember TB scars and people who had polio....and I've visited places where ineffective and/or horribly corrupt local governments have allowed medieval bugs like Typhoid, Typhus and Tuberculosis to rebloom.

 

oh, bless it.

some really smart folks that I know were vaccinated uneventfully. they didn't even post their card on insta or fb, and continued their life. when I asked their opinions, they were honest and simple in their responses.

I've noticed you like to belittle on the subject of "smarts" in particular. the really smart people I know (chemists, engineers, doctors, ditch diggers) are pretty positive people, and aren't caught up in looking down on other people.


what's the real reason for your the condescending posts ?

 

I have 600,000 of them.......
We're supposed to be protected FROM bad things that happen BY agencies that call balls and strikes over the plate as they really see them (Like the WHO, CDC, etc...) and we have recent historical examples where these international bodies DO yeoman work in keeping the genie in the bottle.
Think: Smallpox, Ebola, etc.

There are, other agencies of course that look in other places and for other things (looking at YOU, IAEA!)
These are not 'supposed' to be nakedly influenced by bucks, or social media pressure, otherwise you get.....the IOC...or FIFA.

Science.....TRUE science is supposed to go something like:

BUT it always starts and stops with OBSERVATIONS and QUESTIONS and TRUE scientists are supposed to be objective, which is what used to separate the peer-review process from Gallop polls and advertising bucks.
Science has ALWAYS of course been influenced by bucks, and governments which accounts for the letters "W" and "I" in all of those acronyms.
USED to....

You don't NEED "smart" people.
Just people who are, at times, a little honest.

I don't blame China for wanting to take their place as the dominant world superpower.
China sees the fact that OUR $100USD bill is universally recognized and accepted in all corners of the globe, at face value, and relatively few people could even DESCRIBE a 100RMB note.
(it looks something like this!)


China is working very hard (and succeeding) in making the "Made In China" label something to be quite proud of.....
....BUT(!) they STILL shot themselves in both.....er...(*) 'feet' over their COVID response.

They're still dealing with Hong Kong, and have yet to welcome Taiwan back to the fold.

They're still working their 11-dash plan and Silk Road projects.

They still are ethnically cleansing themselves of their pesky Uyghurs
Uyghur genocide - Wikipedia

This isn't something that happened in 1619, or 1783, or before the UN, HRC, or all of the other agencies that, even if they cannot effectively STOP bad junk from happening SHOULD be at least honest enough to call.....balls and strikes as they see them.

There WILL be a reconing.
There always is.
PART of me hopes to actually SEE China emerge as the dominant world super power because one of the first things that you actually LEARN in leadership is that things are "a little different" when YOU are the one who is in charge.

 

got my first pfizer yesterday, feeling good so far.

all we can do as a people and a country is hope that the next bug comes during an administration that cares more about the people than themselves. (plus keep our own stock of N95's if they ever become available)

 

Hope you guys get the next one, and you're as asymptomatic as I was afterwards!

If the next bug is a 'software' bug - save the N95 mask!
You can use it to filter rainwater or make coffee...er.....if you can find something there in Bastan in the fireplace.

 

Both of my Pfizer doses could have been normal saline, for all the side effects I noticed.