SARS-CoV-2 Coronavirus (COVID-19)

I did. I think he makes a good point that "surge" relative to what? Each country makes and decides its own standard and baseline. For the US, 25000 new daily cases are "safe" to go and do anything you want for most people. For Japan, the daily cases of 5000 are very concerning for many.

 

What I meant was cases of WHAT?
If you have a million new cases but they're all asymptomatic, what does this really mean?

If people are getting sick...how sick are they getting?
What are the hospitalization rates?
Are the local hospitals finding covid patients or are covid patients finding the hospitals?

The Japan has a hybrid health care system....
Not NHS, but not completely privatized either.

Do hospitals get differing reimbursements from the Rona?
What are Japanese smoking rates versus the US?
Air Quality?

Cases without context numbers are fine if you're addicted to panic porn......but I was born in the 'long ago.'
That was a magical time when freedom of speech was actually protected, and people under 30 used to question authority....and not really trust the motives of pretty much everybody over 30.


ACTUAL mileage may vary.

 

how would you track asymptomatic cases? no way that i can figure, or you're constantly testing everyone, impossible.

as for how sick people are getting, it's all over the board. the concern is about spread.

but i'm still asking the question, why the surge in japan?

 

looking at the graph, i would say the surge is relative to the trough. but the question stil has not been answered, and i can't find anything online.

 

The surge is just the way the viruses propagate in unprotected populations. As long as there are some infected people mingled with a sufficient number of unprotected people, it is going to spread. The vaccination rate of Japan is only ~2% among the population of 126 million which is a little over a third of the population of the US crammed in a country of size about the same as the state of California, I am not so surprised to see repeated surge after surge as gov declares state of emergency but without strict lockdown thus not able to totally control the spread before the next wave arrives. I am more surprised that they have not seen more cases than what they have had so far.

 

but looking at the historic daily case graph, it makes no sense. there were no vaccines last year, something else must be in play
japan daily covid case graph

 

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Bob Wilson

ps. Did I get the color wrong?

 

Again, the surge is only relative to a previous low level. Daily cases of 5000 would be lower than the lowest level the US had in April last year even after population adjustment. I am sure some US cities went through similar waves of surges to what Japan has experienced in the last 15 months in a much shorter time period like in weeks. Each of the 4 waves of surges in Japan was followed by gov declaring the state of emergency with a recommendation to stay home, close shops and eateries early, and asked not to gather in a large group, but with no strict enforcement. After repeated such emergencies, people get tired of following the recommendation. This happens even in Japan. This can explain why each surge gets bigger and bigger. On top of people not following recommendations, there is an influx of more virulent variant viruses. As I commented before, a place like Taiwan where the new cases stayed virtually zero for over a year started seeing increased cases recently. I do not have a reference or a paper to cite for the data, but I would not be very surprised if I find out some of the recent surges in many countries in Asia are somewhat related to new variant(s) that may be similar to what India is experiencing.

 

i didn't watch the matrix , so I'm not sure about the colors. I do Google it now and then when people reference "take the x pill" and sometimes Google flip flops depending on how I ask.

the Truman show was a clue to pay attention, it's not one individual, it's entire societies being played by the boobavision.

 

Matrix?
I didn't watch it either.
Seems to be about alternate reality.....
....wow.
How original.

 

cases going down nicely here, hoping for a non covid summer. vax also going down though. final count will be interesting, and then boosters

 

I do not think that there will ever be a Non-Covid summer, just as there aren't many years without a cold and flu season, but I do believe that dot.gov is going to run out of excuses for closing businesses and keeping kids out of school.

I try to get a flu shot every year because it makes walking around sense, and because I'm approaching the age where getting the flu is more and more of a non-trivial event.
Eventually, more efficacy data will express itself for mRNA vaccines, but the current numbers seem to indicate that there WILL be more vaccinations available.....and taken.
It also seems pretty clear that people who get seriously ill, or mostly dead from now on can BLAME whomever or whatever they want (Fox News, China, Government, fluorinated water) but I'm thinking that it's a 'them' problem.

Meanwhile.....people who are in the business of composting ones and zeros will continue to make money on things like vaccination passports, breakout infections, masking laws, etc.

Lather, rinse, repeat.

 

I found this info on an article I was reading last night. Why is vaccine hesitancy so high in France?

The original article was this, but it may be behind a paywall.
COVID purgatory: Variants and other risks complicate Asia's escape - Nikkei Asia

 

It is interesting that nations some consider third world or uneducated have the most reasonable and receptive outlooks on vaccines.

Some of the nations that are considered most educated have the most unreasonable and backward view of vaccines

Every time I think of vaccines I want to thank the founder of the polio vaccine and the hell he saved many of our generation from.

 

It would be interesting to learn whether or not people in China and Veet-nam think that vaccinations are...."optional."

However, (COMMA!) it really does not matter.
If this were a REAL study by a REAL "peer reviewed" jurno then they would be currently prostrating themselves before the Chi-Comms and apologizing in badly accented mandarin for suggesting that China and Hong Kong are 2 different places.

I stopped regarding this publication as a serious scientific journal in 2014.

The data on Japan are kinda interesting, and it tracks somewhat with their current vaccination rates....
Given the fact that Japanese tend to be kinda germ phobey and fairly anal about doing what their government tells them to do, it will be interesting to see if there is a change in their vaccination rates.
They were also conned into hosting (or not) the curiously named 2020 Olympics.

...oops!

Who ever suggested that there was a strong correlation between being educated and being "smart?"

 

I am looking for the original source from The Lancet to see how the study was carried out. I will post it if I find it.

 

OK, I found the original paper in The Lancet.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)00306-8/fulltext
This is the full figure of 32 economic regions surveyed and the full figure legend. I have not read the entire paper to review the methods of study or the conclusion drawn from the study.

 

"their opinions align with mine, so they're reasonable people"

followed by

"their opinions are there opposite of mine, so they are all unreasonable and backwards"

oops.

 

france, i'm thinking unhealthy people who smoke ten packs a day.

japan too, now that i think of it