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2022 Kia EV6 Official Thread

Discussion in 'Hyundai/Kia/Genesis Hybrids and EVs' started by Tideland Prius, Apr 7, 2021.

  1. Tideland Prius

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    Edit: US specs in post #12

    I'm surprised there isn't more talk about this, especially since it'll be launched in "select global markets" in the second half of 2021. (US launch is expected to be early 2022).

    The hammer drop is the EV6 GT, with Model 3/Y Performance rivalling numbers (0-62mph in 3.5 secs, 800V charging that adds 62 miles in < 5 minutes)

    • Towing capacity of 1,600kg/3,500lbs
    • 162hp to 577hp versions in RWD and AWD, 446-538lb-ft
    • SR: 58kWh net, LR: 77.4kWh net
    • Sized between a Sportage and Sorento
    • V2L (Vehicle-to-Load) output up to 3.6kW - capable of charging other EVs
    • 520 litres VDA cargo (18 cu. ft.) seats up
    • 20L/0.7 cu. ft. (AWD) or 51L/1.8 cu. ft (RWD) frunk/froot. (20L/0.7cu. ft. on all North American models AWD or RWD)
    • 400V or 800V charging up to 350kW (standard feature)
    • 10%-80% in 18 minutes for all versions
    • Heat pump allows the EV6 to maintain 80% of its range (based on 25°C/77°F temp) at -7°C/19°F
    • More than 510 km/318 miles range (WLTP) (so I estimate 400 km/250 mi EPA)

    2022 Kia EV6: What We Know So Far

    2022 Kia EV6 GT Is a High-Performance EV with 577 HP and AWD

    2022 Kia EV6 First Look: Welcome to the Electric Era

    Kia’s EV6 is a small electric car with big dreams - The Verge

    8 Coolest Features Of The Kia EV6 | CarBuzz

    Kia EV6 Shows South Korea Is Now A Major Electric Vehicle Contender

    Kia EV6 Vs. Hyundai Ioniq 5: Which Is Right For You? | CarBuzz

    First Look: 2022 Kia EV6 GT | Driving

    Kia EV6 boasts up to 577 hp and can charge in under 20 minutes - Roadshow

    Kia Press Release: Kia News Center
    Kia Worldwide Unveiling:



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    EV6 GT

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    EV6 GT-Line

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    Base EV6
     
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    i suppose because there have been so many failed tesla competitors.

    talk will probably pick up if they actually make one that lives up to the hype.

    not a bad looking car though
     
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    Yeah, it's a good-looking BEV. I like the style more than any Tesla. But I doubt there will be any in stock near Kia dealers around me. And even if they could order one for me, it will be waay above my budget for a daily driver.
     
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    It's a slightly different version of the Ioniq 5. Both are pretty interesting compared to any Tesla since both have options, dashes and HUDs and are built by a company that usually builds decent cars. Might be expensive though, but the charging speed is superior even to a V3 Supercharger charging a new Model 3. I'd like to know how they accept so much charge so fast - cooling, fast charge cells or a little of each?
     
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    Yeah. The Ioniq 5 is targeting luxury and comfort (with the fold-out leg support/ottoman for both front seats and sliding front centre console) while the EV6 is targeting the sporty market. (Supposedly there's a Genesis version that'll target the luxury-sport market).

    Well I suspect the base model will start near US$40k (the question is which battery size will start at $40k - the 58kWh or the 77.4kWh?). The EV6 GT will definitely be in Mustang Mach-E GT and TMY-P territory (but maybe knock off $2-4k).
     
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    I like it...but any idea on price? If they price it higher than a Tesla Model 3...I think they'll have problems. It has to be presented as a 'good value' vs. a Tesla.

    With that said, our Hyundai vehicles have been super solid. Kia is pretty much Hyundai with a different skin...so I feel good about that.

    Edit : found this in one of the articles :

    "The GT is the top trim, but not everyone needs that much performance. The base model is named EV6 and should start around $56,000, while the middle-trim GT-Line will start around $60,000. Both have two battery choices, a 58-kWh power supply suitable for 230 miles of range and a 77.4-kWh unit that will go 316 miles using the European math. The shorter range models come with a 167-hp motor in rear-drive form and 231-hp for all-wheel-drive models. The longer-range EV6 and GT-Line in rear-wheel-drive form get a 225-hp motor, while AWD models get a 320-hp motor connected to both axles.

    In GT trim, the EV6 will be around $80,000 and only comes with the larger battery and all-wheel-drive. The motors generate 576-hp, 538-lb-ft of torque, and you'll need something like a McLaren 570S to take it off the line."

    Uhh....yikes? Sorry, not for me at that price. I think many folks get interested in the new EVs coming out...until they see the price. :whistle: Frankly, we need affordable EVs before they are ever going to 'take over'...

    Edit #2 : Thankfully, some of the comments in the article said the pricing in the article is way off on the high side..so I guess we wait for official pricing.
     
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    Those dollar values look like Canadian pricing. I would guess CAD$80k as well for the GT (basically whatever Mustang Mach-E GT and Model Y Performance would cost in the US and maybe subtract a couple of thousand).

    Which means the base RWD EV6 should be in the neighbourhood of $40k-45k USD for the 77.4kWh unit. (Basically, similar to the recently announced ID.4 Pro RWD)
     
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    Which is around pricing reported for the Ioniq 5.
     
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    The ID.4 Pro is priced at CAD$44,995 with the ID.4 AWD Pro starting at $49,995. No surprise since the federal EV rebate (point of sale) is capped at $45,000 for the base price of the vehicle, with trim levels not exceeding $55,000 (except 7-pass or more, <$55,000 for the base MSRP and no more than $60,000 for other trim levels. Options/packages are excluded from this limit).

    So I suspect Kia will want to price this below CAD$45,000. Currently, the Kona and Niro EV are priced at $44,995 base (Soul EV Premium base is $42,995 but that's because it has a smaller battery). Kona Ultimate, Niro EV SX Touring and Soul EV Limited priced closer to $52,000.
     
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    Kia America: All-New 2022 Kia EV6 Crossover | Meet Your Future Electric Car | Kia
    Press release: All-new Kia EV6 crossover ushers in new era of electric driving excitement

    US specs:

    • LR RWD targeting 300 miles AER (480km)
    • LR AWD 0-60 in 5.1 seconds
    • SR RWD (58kWh) base model
    • GT is coming to America (early 2023)
    • 102 cu.-ft. of passenger room; flat floor design yields 27.7 cu.-ft. of cargo room behind second row and 53.5 cu.-ft. of space with the second-row seats folded down
    • V2L only supports 1.9kW (3.6kW for international markets)
      • 110V power outlet located in a socket on front of second row seat base; adapter to draw power from the external charge port
      • From a full charge, power can be drawn from the vehicle for 36 or more consecutive hours
      • EV6 is able to charge vehicle-to-vehicle (V2V) at 1.1 kW, equivalent to a 110V charger
    • Towing capacity is 2,000lb (int’l version is 3,500lbs)
    • World’s first patented multi-charging system supporting 400v and 800v DC charging, which works on DC chargers with speeds ranging from 50kW to 350kW
      • 800v DC fast charging from a 350-kW charger allows:
        Nearly 70 miles added in less than 5 minutes
        Up to 210-miles (10-to-80 percent) added in under 18 minutes
    • Connected Routing: Uses the cloud to calculate the optimal route using real-time maps, predicted traffic info based on historical information and AI to learn the preferred routes of users
    • Looks like on the safety front, it'll offer items very similar to Toyota's TSS-P 2.5+
    • 1,500 First Edition models will be prepared for the American market
      • Three unique color combinations include Glacier with dark green seats, Urban Yellow with black seats, and Steel Gray Matte with black seats. The First Edition will be the only way to get the look of the Steel Matte Gray paint on an EV6 with the standard design while the Urban Yellow exterior color will be exclusive to the First Edition. Completing the aesthetic are illuminated door sills with the First Edition designation, along with a numbered interior badge highlighting the limited production volume.
    • Reservation opens June 3, 2021
    • No info for Canadians
     
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    As a KIA NIRO PHEV customer this showed up in my inbox from KIA today- others may be interested

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    It is an EV6 introduction detailing KIA's commitment to build EV's in the USA and their EV strategy
     
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    I watched it live. I was not expecting the 300 mile target (especially since the WLTP target was 319 miles)
     
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    Yeah... $58K and maybe premium added if you don't reserve it now. Swiftly off the shortlist for my next car selection.
     
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    These are all limited editions - price may go down when these sell out and normal production units hit the market

    Don't forget this company has 10 more different EV units in their developmental pipeline destined for their customer in the upcoming years.
    With that many models they will cover many price ranges and pocketbooks for a variety of customers

    Kia reports strong demand for its sleek new EV6 electric crossover with starting price of ~$45,000 - Electrek


    Kia accelerates electric transition plan with &#039;11 model EV lineup with 7 dedicated EVs by 2026&#039; - Electrek
     
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