yahoo!finance anti-Tesla articles

a) Funny. How many of these potential buyers want to buy a FCEV? Probably 0.0% (see b below)

b) Young car buyers who have never owned a car nor previously interested in a car are probably answering the poll based on the last car or two that their parents owned and just thought they'd get something like that.

c) link to the study? Was it scientific or just a poll on social media?

Mike

 

Millennials bought 4 million cars and trucks in the U.S. last year, second only to the baby boomers, according to J.D. Power's Power Information Network. Millennials' share of the new car market is at 28% and in California, the country's biggest car market, millennials have now outpaced boomers for the first time.

 

Coronavirus Shaking Up Car Buying As Millennials Suddenly See Big Plusses; EY Report

 

As has been said, the real competitor to the FCEV is the ICE car. Pointing out the flaws of the BEV won't switch an ICE sale to a FCEV one. Criticism of hydrogen expressed is because no one has stated what has changed to make them successful now.

 

The one factor no one is taking into consideration is that the BEV infrastructure seems fine now (with below 1% of the vehicles on the road being BEVs) however there is no way that infrastructure can scale to support 100% of the vehicles on the road. Where as Hydrogen easily scales to replace all ICEs, but getting the infrastructure rolling is tough. Toyota and other FCEV manufacturers most put effort in educating the public on what an FCEV is. The true Hydrogen nation at this time is Germany. Germany is further ahead than anyone else. Germany will be the country that will buy the majority of the new Mirai.

 

Nonsense. That is just your made up opinion.

The fact is that there is plenty of unused electrical generation capacity (at night) to support a large portion of driving in the US (proof below). And as BEV sales grow, the grid has a decade or two to expand. Existing gas station locations could be converted to either hydrogen or electricity. However, many of the gas stations near homes don't need to be converted since people will *mostly* charge at home. Over 70% own their own homes or rent a single family home. For others needing to go to a fast charging location is not much more difficult than having to go to a hydrogen station -- where they will take much more of your money.

Drivers average ~50 miles per day. A good estimate for how many kwh we need per household can be computed as 2 cars per household or 100 miles. Getting ~4 miles per kwh gives us 25 kwh per day or 750 kwh/month. The average monthly residential usage is 900-1000 kwh/month. But consider that with an L2 charger you can charge 50 miles in about 2 hours...at night with nothing but plugging into a dryer outlet. Or by plugging into 120V for ~8 hours without upgrading anything in your house. This means, without considering any Superchargers or CCS or Chademo or destination chargers we already have, as a bare minimum, 50-70% of households with some infrastructure today. For the majority of those upgrading to an L2 is not too difficult for the extra convenience or ability to charge 2 or more cars per day.

The same dollars that would need to be spent on hydrogen stations for the masses, everywhere, since they'd be needed to replace gas stations almost 1 for 1 even near homes in cities, we could install some fast EV chargers and even rebate rental units to install L2 chargers.

For comparison, CA has 10K+ gas stations, with most having 8-10 pumps. How many billion$ will it cost to replace those with hydrogen?
All so we can pay more to travel per mile, rather than less with electricity.

Mike

 

With the help of a non-existent trillion dollar taxpayer bill that isn't even available - due to an ever shrinking economy ......

manufactures don't want to spend their money, they want to spend taxpayer money that doesn't exist because they don't want their skin in the game - any more than they have to - to run the world's most expensive science project.
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Science project as you call it - may save the world. Can you truly put a dollar amount on that?

 

My baseball card collection may save the world, perhaps the government should be giving me unlimited funds?

 

Baseball cards? Is that still a thing?

 

As much as hydrogen fueled cars

 

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