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Or maybe the shipping is cheaper, or the lower cost of labor and materials means more profit, or US production is going to American sales.

You can ask BMW or Mercedes, "Elsewhere, German rival BMW is preparing to export its electric iX3 model, made at a joint venture plant in Shenyang, China, to Europe, while Daimler is shifting production of its Smart branded city cars to Hangzhou Bay."
Tesla to export China-made Model 3 vehicles to Europe | Reuters

The EU and China have different regulations covering cars. Tesla couldn't just take cars made for China, and ship to Europe.

It has just been getting started for decades now. Yet no one is willing to go on the record and say how much the fuel cell in a car costs in a flat dollar amount. All Toyota said was that they reduce costs by 95% from the previous generation. Well, the Clarity FCX of that previous generation was called a million dollar car by the press, and Honda didn't bother to correct them.

Today, a 6kW fuel cell generator will cost you $27k. G-HFCS-6kW (6kW Hydrogen Fuel Cell Power Generator)
The Mirai's stack is 114kW.

 

That is exactly the point.
They are just getting started. Meanwhile Tesla got started long ago and are way ahead, especially in terms of charging infrastructure, drive train efficiency, brand recognition, market share and more

Mike

 

Both Kia & Hyundai have certainly passed Toyota over ... in the race to BEV's. Odd anyone would want to bring up that sore subject to Toyota.
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VW is the one making a massive venture into BEVs, and their first on the new platform was having software issues.

By third party observers, Tesla is at least 5 years ahead of every in not just batteries, but also motors and control electronics.

 

So Boeing never happened for all the many years they were way ahead?

 

Tesla has a lead technology wise. Airbus pushed new technology for aircraft.

 

People aren't saying Toyota is out of the game because Tesla has a lead. They are out of the game because they focus on FCEV's, and only do plug ins when they are have to, and not because they want to.

Tesla is not Toyota's enemy. Tesla is just an example that the BEV business can be successful, and that change is coming. Toyota probably could make a competitive BEV, but they are choosing not too. Hydrogen cars may or may not come to be, but BEVs are already here, and Toyota didn't line up enough batteries for what will likely one of the most PHEVs in the world.

 

Sure they could. But they have to show up first. If you are late to a 100m dash you might as well not run it. If you are late to a marathon you still have a chance...but not if you are a no-show.

Why are there so many EV startups? (Lucid, Rivian, Nikola, Faraday, Fiskar and many more)
Not because making an EV is easy, but rather because it is difficult. It is even more difficult when you are a legacy car maker that doesn't want to cannibalize your ICE cars and your dealer business model relies on maintenance) Legacy car makers have a sales problem for EVs (and FCEV). The problem is getting sales people to know how to sell them.

Mike

 

I seem to recall Toyota using Tesla parts.

 

They had there own parts, but put them in a tiny 3+1 seater with less than 50 miles of range, for the price of a Leaf.

 

Can't comment on the rest of my post?

Toyota has a great hybrid system, but unless they are working on a drop in renewable fuel for them, they aren't zero emission.

Guess Tesla supplied a whole bunch of inverters to Toyota for the Prius then.
"While power steering and braking would remain operational, a vehicle stall while driving at higher speeds could increase the risk of a crash."
Toyota is conducting a safety recall involving certain Prius and Prius v vehicles - Toyota USA Newsroom

 

That particular recall covered 59% of the cars for those years. It was just one recall regarding inverter issues and stalling. There were others covering model years back to 2010. Over 800,000 hybrids were involved in the US. Some recalls were to fix the issue after the first fix didn't work. One California dealer is alleging that the issue still isn't fixed.

Toyota Recalls 267,000 Prius, Prius V Cars for Risk of Stalling
Toyota Recalls 109,000 Prius Vs for Stalling, Hybrid Failures – News – Car and Driver
Toyota Prius Stalling Problems Continue - Details of Dealer Lawsuit

Still can't address the rest of the other post.