Featured Toyota false-advertised 5 minute refuel for Mirai

All hypothetical - and if does happen, that is great news. We want more Hydrogen cars on the road. One just has to adjust to this as the fueling stations get built out.

 

Not aware of this happen, it’s all a big “IF”.

 

100 miles more may add another 3 minutes to the fuel process. So let’s say 6 to 7 minutes to fill.

 

Daimler ends hydrogen car development because it's too costly - Electrek

 

they must have ran out of government subsidies

 

Daimler was bleeding in the red! They are cutting costs and Hydrogen was one of the costs to be cut. Buy they are still working on Commercial trucking and Hydrogen development. “decision to pull the plug on production of the Mercedes-Benz C-Class sedan at its plant in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, not to mention moves to consolidate its hydrogen fuel-cell development efforts with Volvo Trucks and put a pin in an automation development partnership with fellow German automotive giant BMW” all done to cut costs.

 

hydrogen R&D too expensive & a huge financial suck? Who knew!
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Mercedes-Benz previews fuel-cell semi with GenH2 Truck concept Daimler still see the potential of Hydrogen, not BEV for trucks.

 

Hydrogen was not the cause of Mercedes money lose it was offering too many models for sale and no real focus on what Mercedes was and is, they are now cutting out cheaper vehicles and going higher up the food chain to capture the prestige it once had.

 

Mirai owner with 187k miles and only one problem, one rear wheel bearing needing replacement. That’s what Toyota is all about!

 

New insight brings sustainable hydrogen one step closer Hydrogen updates keep flowing

 

Germany will lead the world to Hydrogen. They are setting an example for us and the rest of the world. Momentum is building up and it’s wonderful to see!!
Germany: building one of the world’s most advanced infrastructures.

 

Hydrogen: Germany commits to the future of fuel cells

 

Several have cut the cost of hydrogen.

VW is doing the same as Daimler, cutting personal hydrogen car research.

Honda and GM decided the costs were too high on their own, so have partnered up.

BMW found it easier to just do a technology swap with Toyota. They are getting fuel cells for their 2022 car, for sharing their carbon fiber tech several years ago.

We'll need hydrogen sources for industrial use if we cut fossil fuels, and better electrolyzers will make renewable methanol more likely for our cars.

That was from a year ago, and has no details of what they plan. Only a pie in the sky goal of getting to 60k hydrogen cars from 600 in, now 2 years. It is just a fluff piece.

 

Anything to do with Hydrogen is a fluff piece ugh

 

Manufacturing hydrogen:

• electrolysis - 3x less efficient per mile
• C{H4} steam H{2}O + 206 kJ/mol - makes 1 CO per 3 H{2} plus energy to make steam

It doesn't matter how you manufacture hydrogen, it is inefficient and/or contributes to green house gasses. This is not counting how much methane leaks, another green house gas. A gas that Trump deregulated the capture from fracking fields.

Bob Wilson

 

Wow and BEV’s are so perfect so you say! NOT.
The Dirty Secrets Of ‘Clean’ Electric Vehicles

 

Liar! The chemistry is not refuted and you know it.

Forbes has their own problems with reality. It was so transparently inaccurate, even you were ashamed to post quotes. Not to worry, PLOINK!

Bob Wilson

 

Bury ones head as to the reality of how a BEV is made, there is no clean alternative, they all have their own dirty little secrets.

 

pulling up ½ decade old zombie thread ... i'll bite.
Pulling up to a hydrogen station after a couple cars have already filled & depressurize the station?? Hypothetical ?
No more hypothetical than having tons & tons of hydrogen refueling stations being hypothetical - just so you can assure to get that fuel in 7 to 10 minutes - turning on temperature and empty tank level. And....
it's great if someone lives just a couple blocks away from a hydrogen tank to reduce your drive to get to the station. Some might not be comfortable living relatively close to 10,000 PSI explosives, because there have been explosions. Therefore that's not hypothetical. Even so, it's physically impossible for tens of 1,000's of hypothetical hydrogen car users (lofty unmet goal) to live closer to hydrogen stations. (realistically, people who can afford to, don't want to even live near regular gas stations) Hydrogen tank refueling spots would have to be as ubiquitous as gas stations - every few blocks or so within a city - and they're extremely expensive cost limits that hypothetical. So even if you could - hypothetically, get tens of thousands of fuel cell cars in any city - you will either end up waiting 4 or 5 times as long for the hydrogen refueling station to get back up to pressure, or you will spend trillions to build thousands and thousands hydrogen stations, all using tons of high-pressure compressors - compressing fuel for $15 a liter - on the cheapest fuel source, natural gas or coal.
These are the chicken-and-egg scenarios that keep hydrogen as a science project, or the future fuel of tomorrow.
Maybe in 10 more years
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