SARS-CoV-2 Coronavirus (COVID-19)

We're seeing an increase in Alabama timed about right for the early school openings. We're also seeing some districts backing off from remote learning:
https://covidtracking.com/data/state/alabama

Bob Wilson

 

numbers are ticking up in some area's but that's to be expected. fauci doesn't seem concerned, as long as it is done following guidelines.
some places won't, and they will probably pay the price. but overall, i'm hoping the surge can be held down until we have a decent vaccine and better treatments.

i think the media hype has toned down a bit, maybe due to the elections

another good day in the usa, let's keep it going. mask up people!

 

bloomberg: 'raging campus outbreaks send students home across the country'

send them home to who?

 

Good advice but consider the audience:

We are current and past Prius owners who took a different path than the traditional ICE/diesel owners. We're already inclined to taking our own path to the future but the caution is merited:

• 6,245,866 / 328,200,000 ~= 1.9% (about 1 of every 50)
• 188,538 / 6,245,866 ~= 3.0% death rate

Bob Wilson

 

it sometimes amazes me that we don't know anybody who knows anybody who has had it.

i think that is a problem for a lot of deniers.

on the plus side, many sports seem to have overcome initial infection rate. i'm especially impressed with mlb.

hopefully, our school systems can do equally as well, albeit with less assets to throw at it.

 

Unfortunately, the numbers aren't looking good for Colleges and Universities.

A New Front in America’s Pandemic: College Towns - The New York Times
More Than 6,600 Coronavirus Cases Have Been Linked to U.S. Colleges - The New York Times

 

that's from july 29th. hopefully, they are beginning to get a handle on it,

i can't find current numbers.

northeastern suspended 11 students for a get together.

college football has begun, that should be interesting.

 

Only the second link is that old. The first link is datelined as today.

 

school kids though are the least likely to even have symptoms. Yea yea they may go home and spread it, I get it. Healthy MLB folks are in a similar boat. Part of the reason that nobody seems to know anybody that got it is because there is a stigma. The one person we knew who had it, was not allowed subsequent doctor appointments! .... even though discharged & cleared healthy by the hospital - MONTHS earlier. Doctor appointment staff said, "don't come back until you have another test - & bring it with you so we all know". Jackasses - "oh no! maybe that one test isn't good enough! It might be a false negative!!!" Sheeez with that asinine logic, shouldn't the paranoid & fearful health providers be requiring those who cleared infection months ago, to take 10 or 15 more tests? Just to make sure the majority of tests show your healthy? Meanwhile, that kind of assaninity causes folks to suffer even worse from the thing they were trying to get cured of - when the medical industry kicks you down the street.
Home - Flatten the Fear

Looking at Sweden which didn't shut down all the restaurants - force masks & such, but rather went for herd immunity, they've been doing well since July. That makes it look like all the masks and such that we're forced to do under the paranoia theory is prolonging the inevitable before we catch up to Sweden. No?
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Sweden has not achieved herd immunity. And it is much too soon to judge whether or not they handled it better than their peers, that assessment can only be done with significant hindsight, after the pandemic is over. It was only last week that our own per-capita death rate finally exceeded Sweden's rate, the rest of Scandinavia isn't even close to that high level.

And I have no confidence that the U.S. is capable of pulling off that particular approach as well as the Swedes have. They are a socialist country, with universal government-funded health care, a much more robust social safety net, and a population far more trusting of its government and willing to follow the government's recommendations. Those characteristics are just not the American Way.

 

i can't access the first link, but overall, the numbers don't seem horrible. the goal is not to get the numberto zero, just keep it low enough for hospital surge

 

Yes - and THIS is how WHO shows what's going on in Sweden ...


not zet zero ....nor are they bankrupting their country - nor the other colateral negatives. So as Sweeden numbers remain low - all of us in the other (more fearful) countries appear to be catching up to Sweden's earlier rate of high infection .... only we're doing it slower.
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i agree that you can't compare though. sweden is mostly homogenous, and they care for their neighbor.

we're not

 

one common denominator: we both let it seep into our long term care facilities before we realized tthe danger

 

Many people think of Scandinavian countries as "socialist," but in a documentary we saw recently (on Amazon Prime, I think), Swedes consider themselves to be a well-managed capitalist country. The one example I remember now: they don't even have government-run schools: all are privately run but receive government funding.

 

I'm not seeing any of Sweden's neighboring peers catching up to its per capita fatality rate, not anywhere close. Their fatality rate is more than 5X that of Denmark, 9X Finland, 11X Norway, 20X Iceland.

So if their economy has been hit just as bad as their neighbors, have they really gained anything for all those extras Covid-19 deaths? Apparently, not yet.

 

Municipalities are not governments? Where I come from, those are considered local governments.

Wikipedia: Education in Sweden

"The majority of schools are run municipally, but there are also privately owned schools, known as independent schools."

Sweden.se: Education in Sweden

"Charter schools

The number of independent schools with public funding, so-called charter schools, is growing in Sweden. Following a law change in the 1990s, parents and their children can choose among tuition-free schools, whether municipal or private.

Although private schools have been in existence for as long as there has been compulsory education in Sweden, they were not a wide-spread competitive alternative to municipal schools until the 1992 law provided them with public funding.

These publicly funded non-municipal schools are called friskola (charter school) to differentiate them from tuition-based private schools (of which there are only a handful left in Sweden).

Same rules apply

In Sweden, charter schools must be approved by the Schools Inspectorate and follow the national curricula and syllabuses, just like regular municipal schools.

In 2017, around 17 per cent of compulsory schools and 33 per cent of upper secondary schools were charter schools and they attracted 15 per cent of all compulsory school students and 27 per cent of all upper secondary school students."

 

Over here in Australia, Victoria has had its capital in lock down since early July and all the borders closed but only now seeing the numbers starting to drop. Here in South Australia we had been Covid free for 14 days until May 7th and we received a few imported cases from O/S on a return home flight, they were immediately put into quarantine as were all the passengers on that flight and not let out until Covid free for 14 days . That took up until a week ago to get sorted and we were again Covid free .... until Sunday. A few areas in the wine growing regions have turned up Covid positive in the waste water. All the borders are still closed, these are country South Australian areas, so how did it get there? Still a lot to learn about how it is spread and now no one feels safe again

T1 Terry