SARS-CoV-2 Coronavirus (COVID-19)

His? Trumps? W.H.O? ...

Now that we have a growing population of test subjects:
Source: NIH to start 'flurry' of large studies of potential Covid-19 treatments

The National Institutes of Health is preparing to launch a “flurry” of large clinical trials to test new approaches to treating Covid-19, according to the agency’s director, hoping to expand what for now remains a limited arsenal of therapies to help people with the disease.

In an interview, NIH Director Francis Collins characterized the studies as “really well-powered, rigorously designed clinical trials.”
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My experience has been properly conducted trials eliminate a lot of "feel good" announcements. Individual claims are not enough.

Bob Wilson

 

sometimes it's a triage situation. i would prefer to see debate in the scietific community, not in washington

 

the country is on the back nine, it's almost over...

am i wrong to be concerned that ma can't get its numbers any lower?

 

more testing will mean more case, i'm trying to figure out how to get the number down, not up. i know, less testing

 

but seriously, i think there is a percentage of the population that is just going to keep putting themselves in harms way. or is it senior centers, or front line workers, or necessary workers, or even those going back to work and being cautious, but it's still too soon.

 

business insider: 'according to the fort worth starr-telegram, hospital officials in starr county are so over run with covid patients, they will have to start sending home those they feel are likely to die.'

 

This is exactly the dilemma everyone wants to avoid. When this situation you stated occurs the Health System in the affected area is compromised and people will not only die of Covid but the area loses all ability to effectively treat other emergency medical conditions.

Selfish people who pass the Covid virus around affect everyone in the community. People who need cancer treatment, heart attack treatment etc are denied proper medical treatment because in many cases selfish people have failed to take proper protection or self quarantine.

In our neck of the woods I would put people who decide to go on vacation to known Covid hotspots -become infected and then bring it back home to their communities compromising their area Health System as the ultimate example of being selfish.

! Warning this post contains someones humble opinion !

 

My brother and I have been discussing death rates. We know it is a trailing metric which I thought was bout 6 weeks afer the peak COVID-19 diagnosis. But we know treatments have improved the outcomes. So does anyone have more current source of current COVID-19 metrics:

1. How many recover at home . . . used to be ~80%
2. How many hospitalized and recover . . . used to be ~15%
3. How many die . . . used to be ~5%
4. How long between exposure and symptoms . . . used to be 10-14 days
5. How long (average!) hospital stay . . . 2-4 weeks
6. How long (average!) to death . . . 4-6 weeks

If we can compare current outcomes to past, we can gain a clue about how effective (and widely deployed) these improved treatments have become.

Thanks,
Bob Wilson

 

I wonder if the data here would be of interest to you?

Provisional Death Counts for Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

It might not be of value to you.

 

whose side are you on

 

cdc changes guidance: covid victims may leave isolation after 10 days from onset of symptoms, with no testing.

 

extremely

 

Quarantine originally was 40 days (quarantena in mid-17th century Italian)
Quarantine - Wikipedia

Even isolation is going down the tubes . . .

 

My brother cited that source. But this is why I'm interested in the efficiency of current treatments. We know they exist and individual papers identify how each works. Just I'd prefer not to do the 'heavy lifting' of mapping our current practices are working versus the earlier hot-States.

Bob Wilson

 

although that's 100% above, there ought to be a percentage for the asymptomatic - which then skews all the other percentages downward.
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