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Featured Corolla Cross: Could it come to America?

Discussion in 'Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News' started by Leadfoot J. McCoalroller, Jul 9, 2020.

  1. Leadfoot J. McCoalroller

    Leadfoot J. McCoalroller Senior Member

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    It is the obvious product-gap being filled, now that RAV4 has grown so large.
     
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    Nope never nada.

    (unless you count something similar with a different name coming in)
     
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    They can call it whatever they want. It's a station wagon. A small one, within an inch or so of my beloved Subaru BP chassis; would also match a Volvo V60 wagon for size.

    That's a size and shape I've loved for years. I'd be interested in seeing this one up close if they ever sold it here.
     
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    More likely to come here than the Corolla Sportwagon.
     
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    Crazy name really - it's not a Corolla. Same as the Mustang EV - sorry FORD, crazy name.
     
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    It's more Corolla than the C-HR it shares a platform with.
    "The Corolla Cross has the same 103.9-inch wheelbase as the C-HR but it s a few inches longer, wider and taller than that subcompact model. It's also several inches longer, wider, and taller than the Corolla hatchback."

    It has the same wheel base as the Corolla hatchback, too. The sedan and wagon have a longer wheelbase, though the cross is little wider and taller than them. The height difference is likely all in the ground clearance than in cabin space.

    As for the outside appearance, the Camry in North America has two different front ends, and then the Prius and Prius Prime are quite different. More so than the Cross and other Corollas.

    Once upon a time, Subaru treated the Outback as a trim of the Legacy.
     
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    "Toyota has already trademarked the name in America"

    That is all we need to know. The question is when?

    Personally, this package looks awesome. It looks like a Subaru for folks who want a Toyota ( like me ). (y)
     
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    Published dimensions are all within an inch of the classic 1996-2009 Outback, but it says available with an HSD. And appears lifted. That's shut-up-and-take-my-money stuff round here.
     
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    Same here! Sweet move by Toyota ( assuming it comes to the USA ). I think they finally realized Subaru has little competition these days...and that people actually like the Subaru station wagon style. Frankly, I'm amazed by the number of Subaru wagons I see out on the road these days around here!
     
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    It was really only a matter of time. The necessity to improve SUV aerodynamics and a raised floor for battery storage made this offering inevitable.
     
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    Personally, I like taking road trips to SE Utah and places like that. Unfortunately, it is quite sketchy getting to some of the remote petroglyph sites and such in the Prius...and that has always held us back. Looks like this could be a major candidate for our next vehicle if the specs pan out. (y)
     
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    The 2010 Outback was a major revamp: bigger. And they've stretched it bigger still since then.
    And the public gobbled it up-Outback sales set company records through the 2010s. This move also left at least some customers wishing they could still get the original size car. The Impreza has also grown- almost to former Legacy size, but they just aren't doing it for me.
     
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    Why am I the dampener of enthusiasm around here?
    Part of Subaru's success has been in the marketing of AWD. The ICE Corolla Cross is like the Yaris Cross and US C-HR, FWD only. AWD can be had with the hybrid, but we haven't gotten the hybrid version of the C-HR nor Corolla hatchback.

    I'd rather see hatchbacks and wagons, lifted or not, than SUVs. Hopefully, it will arrive here as a hybrid, and hopefully Ford will rethink the Focus Active after the election.
     
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    It’ll probably arrive here.

    It is the definition of a crossover. Not really an SUV, not really a wagon but has traits of both.

    AWD Hybrid would be nice and would differentiate it from the FWD CH-R.
     
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    I'm not going to claim to represent much of a market segment, but I want a medium sized 2WD station wagon with generous ground clearance. Outback was this plus AWD, and I've realized I don't need AWD- I'd rather pocket the savings in fuel economy, tires and mechanical wear.
     
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    A FWD SUV could be had relatively easy. Unfortunately, when it comes to actual wagons with ground clearance in the US, AWD was the only option.

    I predict the Corolla Cross will be hybrid and AWD only if it comes here.
     
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    Because it's you..haha. ;)

    Seriously though, that is a good argument. However, in my opinion, Subaru markets the 'lifestyle marketing' of their vehicles....and AWD is part of that marketing...but certainly not the entire package. Frankly, I view Subaru's AWD as somewhat of a marketing gimmick. The vast majority that own them don't need it...but it fits their 'lifestyle marketing profile'.

    There are lots of articles about this...here is one :

    How Subaru came up with the 'Love' marketing campaign

    Those of us that know you absolutely don't *need* AWD, this would be perfect.

    Oh..and it would be super great if Toyota would release an AWD version of the Corolla Cross in the future. ;)
     
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    Exterior/Interior video walkaround.




    Note that features may different across the world.


    Also I see that cost-cutting is still there (even though Toyota dangles fancy features like leather seats, dual zone automatic climate control and power folding mirrors)
     
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    I like! Thx for posting.