1. Attachments are working again! Check out this thread for more details and to report any other bugs.

SARS-CoV-2 Coronavirus (COVID-19)

Discussion in 'Environmental Discussion' started by tochatihu, Jan 26, 2020.

  1. tochatihu

    tochatihu Senior Member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2004
    9,159
    3,565
    0
    Location:
    Kunming Yunnan China
    Vehicle:
    2001 Prius
    The daily White House briefing recently include several charts and other data displays. Is there a web site where those are archived and can be viewed? This is a serious question.
     
  2. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    110,166
    50,060
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    google shows nothing. perhaps someone else has better search skills
     
    tochatihu likes this.
  3. tochatihu

    tochatihu Senior Member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2004
    9,159
    3,565
    0
    Location:
    Kunming Yunnan China
    Vehicle:
    2001 Prius
    Thanks for looking there may be hope for you yet.
     
    Mendel Leisk and bwilson4web like this.
  4. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    110,166
    50,060
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    not according to my wife :oops:
     
  5. tochatihu

    tochatihu Senior Member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2004
    9,159
    3,565
    0
    Location:
    Kunming Yunnan China
    Vehicle:
    2001 Prius
    I'm not one to disagree with local experts.
     
  6. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    110,166
    50,060
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    tiger tests positive at bronx zoo
     
    Mendel Leisk likes this.
  7. Salamander_King

    Salamander_King Senior Member

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2015
    10,985
    8,886
    0
    Location:
    New England
    Vehicle:
    Other Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    Sorry, I can't help you there. I REFUSE to watch WH briefing.
     
    Robert Holt and Mark57 like this.
  8. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2005
    27,666
    15,664
    0
    Location:
    Huntsville AL
    Vehicle:
    2018 Tesla Model 3
    Model:
    Prime Plus
    I came across this YouTube from the Tesla lab working on their ventilators:

    • 20 sec - the overall flow which shows dual processors monitoring the system
    Bob Wilson
     
  9. 3PriusMike

    3PriusMike Prius owner since 2000, Tesla M3 2018

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2009
    3,028
    2,369
    0
    Location:
    Silicon Valley
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    Wow! That is strict.
    You have to bring your own toilet papers when you leave your house?

    Mike
     
  10. Leadfoot J. McCoalroller

    Leadfoot J. McCoalroller Senior Member

    Joined:
    May 12, 2018
    7,438
    6,920
    1
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    Vehicle:
    2018 Prius c
    Model:
    Two
    A simple search of youtube for "white house press briefing" returns a useful selection of clips from the past week or so's worth of the briefings. This is far from a curated list of verified full content packages, but it's a starting point that could be used to get there.
     
  11. Prodigyplace

    Prodigyplace 2025 Camry XLE FWD

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2016
    11,801
    11,363
    0
    Location:
    Central Virginia
    Vehicle:
    Other Hybrid
    Model:
    XLE
    The White House has a YouTube channel. That should simplify the search.
     
  12. tochatihu

    tochatihu Senior Member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2004
    9,159
    3,565
    0
    Location:
    Kunming Yunnan China
    Vehicle:
    2001 Prius
    These are countries that have passed peak, with several excluded by me because data still looks oisy. No large country was excluded

    Gompertz inflections prepared 2020 April 6 based on
    COVID-19 Regional Numbers of Infected People
    (that website graphics copyright Jens Roder)

    ... Day of inflection … Cases then … Projected final cases … Frac peak/final
    Hubei ………….. Feb 7 …… 22112 ………. 68101 … 0.32
    Korea ………….. Feb 29 …. 3150 ………….. 9410 … 0.33
    Jordan …………. Mar 22 … 84 ………………. 358 …. 0.23
    Lebanon ……….Mar 23 … 248 ……………... 709 …. 0.35
    S Africa ……..… Mar 24 … 402 ……………. 1652 …. 0.24
    Swiss …………… Mar 24 … 12104 ………. 27355 ….0.44
    Italy ……………..Mar 24 … 63927 ..…… 180444 … 0.35
    Costa Rica ……. Mar 25 … 177 …………….. 617 …. 0.29
    Slovenia ………. Mar 25 … 480 ……………. 1564 … 0.31
    Luxembourg … Mar 25 … 1099 …………. 3329 …. 0.33
    Austria ………… Mar 25 … 5282 ………… 15198 … 0.35
    Andorra ………..Mar 26 … 213 ……………… 614… 0.35
    Malaysia ……… Mar 26 … 1796 ………….. 5572 … 0.32
    Norway ……….. Mar 26 … 2916 ………….. 8929 … 0.33
    Bulgaria ………..Mar 27…… 264 ……………. 797 … 0.33
    Iceland ………… Mar 27…… 802 ………….. 2357 … 0.34
    Latvia ………….. Mar 28 ….. 280 …………. 841 … 0.33
    Croatia ………….Mar 28…… 586 …………. 1754 … 0.33
    Finland ………… Mar 28 …. 1025 ……….. 3374 … 0.30
    Lithuania …….. Mar 29 … 394 …………… 1239 … 0.32
    New Zealand …Mar 29 … 476 …………… 1570 … 0.30
    Spain …………….Mar 30 … 94417 ….… 234062 … 0.40
    Czechia ……….. Mar 31 … 3002 …………. 8547 … 0.35
    Germany ………Mar 31 …61913 …….. 182949 … 0.34

    ++
    I find it impossible to align columns in text posted here but message should be clear. This modeling seems to work for a wide range of data dynamics. It predicts US to have daily peak on day 98 (today) but I think that is not yet.

    Others may have read that Sweden has experimented with less severe social (physical) distancing. I don't think that will turn out well.

    France remains unpredictable apparently because of a large jump in reported cases. Unclear how that will really turn out.
     
    Merkey and Robert Holt like this.
  13. tochatihu

    tochatihu Senior Member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2004
    9,159
    3,565
    0
    Location:
    Kunming Yunnan China
    Vehicle:
    2001 Prius
    Because countries are releasing their data (with great transparency and alacrity we hope), and because WHO assimilates it, and because Jens Roder and other smart people know how to math:

    There is less and less need to live in fear of this bad boy. Anyway not a fear of the unknown.

    We know about how bad it will get, where and when, assuming people don't mess up in a variety of possible ways.

    I can't advise (now) about where to apply which case fatality rate - they range from about 1 to 11%.

    Adding column of populations for each country will give additional insight.

    ==
    China now ends a 3-day weekend, during which people crowded into vacation sites. I think that might have been a bad idea.

    ==

    In a few days there will be more country inflections to add, but I won't put them here until personally convinced. Meanwhile Roder's website is at your fingertips.
     
    #1453 tochatihu, Apr 6, 2020
    Last edited by a moderator: Apr 6, 2020
  14. Mendel Leisk

    Mendel Leisk EGR Fanatic

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2010
    56,693
    39,238
    80
    Location:
    Greater Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    Touring
    Where is that?
     
  15. tochatihu

    tochatihu Senior Member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2004
    9,159
    3,565
    0
    Location:
    Kunming Yunnan China
    Vehicle:
    2001 Prius
    Mendel Leisk likes this.
  16. Mendel Leisk

    Mendel Leisk EGR Fanatic

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2010
    56,693
    39,238
    80
    Location:
    Greater Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    Touring
    I'm suitably chastised. :oops:
     
  17. tochatihu

    tochatihu Senior Member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2004
    9,159
    3,565
    0
    Location:
    Kunming Yunnan China
    Vehicle:
    2001 Prius
    I could have done it more diplomatically. Sorry, hope no hard feelings. Get us a couple of plastic raincoats and I'll give you a hug.
     
    Mendel Leisk likes this.
  18. tochatihu

    tochatihu Senior Member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2004
    9,159
    3,565
    0
    Location:
    Kunming Yunnan China
    Vehicle:
    2001 Prius
  19. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    110,166
    50,060
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    wow, that is a lot of asymp people walking around

    is hubei a country?

    boris johnson moved to icu
     
    #1459 bisco, Apr 6, 2020
    Last edited by a moderator: Apr 6, 2020
  20. tochatihu

    tochatihu Senior Member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2004
    9,159
    3,565
    0
    Location:
    Kunming Yunnan China
    Vehicle:
    2001 Prius
    There are several ways to view high asympt population.

    Great they did not get sick.
    ?? Can pass virus to others ?? How effectively ??
    ?? Do they develop immunity??

    I expect development of antibody (serum Blood) test here may lead to other antibody tests, leading to a much improved understanding of human ecology of corona viruses. Perhaps other virus groups as well.

    Most folks anticipating respiratory pandemics were focused on H something N something. It would be great to know more about that ecology.

    ==
    From virus' perspective, killing walking lungs is scarcely the point. Making copies is. So they bumble about and sometimes come up with things that work well.
     
    Robert Holt and iplug like this.