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SARS-CoV-2 Coronavirus (COVID-19)

Discussion in 'Environmental Discussion' started by tochatihu, Jan 26, 2020.

  1. tochatihu

    tochatihu Senior Member

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    Only listing possible therapeutics, not giving recos.

    If people are willing to drink chlorine bleach, heartworm chewies would be unsurprising. But I think you need to throw it in the air, jump up and mouth catch. That's how it works for dogs, so if we are going to get all cargo-culty...
     
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    Gompertz modeling highlights today:

    Italy gets into the tail. It's a fat tail. Final case totals projected around 180 thousand.
    Spain has peaked, and may have final case totals around 250 thousand.
    Germany is next large player to soon let us say past peak. Hoping total around 190 thousand.
    Many smaller countries are expected to hit inflection points this week.

    US' expected inflection point got pushed back. Driven by new states having sharp increases I suppose. Final case total projection now ~1.2 million.

    Worst news of day may be that France' latest daily new cases blew their model up.

    France blows up.png

    It is recoverable, if they have new daily case totals that are less ballistic, later. A week could bring this back down.

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    In China, I have not seen that new reporting of asymptomatic cases has changed ncov.dxy products.
     
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    I just gave simplest example I was familiar with of an after PCRing test. If I just hand waved a then the it is tested for the target DNA, I might as well hand waved the entire PCR description.;)
    I could have gone on about pulse field electropherosis, or the ultracentrifugation method we used for GMOed plasmids as other examples of seperating target DNA out from the junk.

    Don't give it to your collie. They have a holy blood-brain barrier in regards to that.
     
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    You mean like the couple that took aquarium cleaner as a preventative for COVID-19?
     
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    France was not adding case counts and deaths from nursing homes to the official total. The French government is in the process of collecting that data, and started reporting that April 2 and 3. The nursing home counts are attributed to the dates that the government received those reports rather than when the counts actually happened.

    Spain Coronavirus: 130,759 Cases and 12,418 Deaths - Worldometer
     
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    my niece is in paris with her husband and 2 kids. it's pretty strict there. have to report if you're leaving and why.
    she went for a run, and got stopped 4 times by the gendarmes to check her papers
     
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    after months of stumbling and bumbling, cdc finally recommends home made masks for citizens. :rolleyes:
     
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    If you are downplaying the current threat of COVID-19 because the number of weekly pneumonia death in the US is very high (above 3,000/week most of the time), then you may be misleading the truth. The number of death graphed are reported death for ALL cases of pneumonia, which is an umbrella term to cover many different infectious agents including virus, bacteria, and fungi, many of them not highly communicable. The actual reported confirmed cases of death caused by "common flu" is only part of this number and much less (~145/week death by flu from 2019 average). The currently reported cases of a weekly number of death by COVID-19 (over 9,000 reported death in less than 5 weeks, that's ~1,800/week death by COVID-19) is more than 10 times of death by common flu.
    all the data are from here: National Center for Health Statistics Mortality Surveillance System
    and https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/weeklyarchives2019-2020/data/NCHSData13.csv
     
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    Source: Provisional Death Counts for Coronavirus Disease (COVID-19)

    Data as of 4/3/2020

    Week ending date in which the death occurred All COVID-19 Deaths (U07.1)1 Deaths from All Causes Percent of Expected Deaths2 All Pneumonia Deaths3 (J12.0–J18.9) Deaths with Pneumonia and COVID-193 (J12.0–J18.9 and U07.1)
    Deaths occurred COVID-19 All Causes Expected Pneumonia Deaths Pneumonia and COVID-19
    1 02/01/20 0 56061 94 2991 0
    2 02/08/20 0 56209 94 2985 0
    3 02/15/20 0 54463 92 2863 0
    4 02/22/20 0 54017 93 2833 0
    5 02/29/20 5 53697 93 2831 2
    6 03/07/20 16 52506 91 2826 5
    7 03/14/20 41 48577 85 2730 17
    8 03/21/20 300 42750 74 2642 121
    9 03/28/20 788 28498 50 2040 324
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    11 Total Deaths 1150 446778 86 24741 469



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    That chart with this week will be sobering :confused:
     
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    Update 8 - 4/05/2020
    For the last update, I said that NY may have hit their peak. Unfortunately, shortly after that post, NY's cases started marching back upwards. Due to that and the roll-over into April, I've made to changes to the graphs:
    • X-axis is now the day of the year (starting with March 5th) rather than date.
    • I'm now using a 3-day average rather than single-day numbers. This should smooth the messiness and reduce the chance of any downturns being flukes.
    Having done that, the news is back to being all-bad. Both the U.S. and all State's I am tracking show us still in the exponential-ish growth phase of the pandemic in the U.S.

    [​IMG]

    Data is from COVID19 Tracker
     
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    Collies @1423.

    Is there an alternative heartworm medicine for them? :oops:
     
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    recommended science article

    disguised link

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    Weird thing putting the realclearscience URL directly gave a priuschat database error. I do not know what that means. But if I chain the url to plain text, it works.

    Softwarez ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
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    Some URLs go crazy. Do not paste in a Jalopnik URL, for instance. Use a link.
     
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    tochatihu Senior Member

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    I think I learned that from you @Prodigyplace . Mostly I need to make sure URLs I post do not reveal that they might have come from... i do not know... fark? :D
     
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    Actually I learned it from @Tideland Prius
     
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    He is patient zero!
     
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    I had a thought. This use of the term 'epicenter' was not wrongly taken from earthquake research. Instead it is a shortening of epidemic center. Possibly sincere flattery, it still muddies the water a bit.

    Maybe they thought about Demicenter and set it aside.
     
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    [QUOTE="Trollbait, post: 3021889, member: 12239"Don't give it to your collie. They have a holy blood-brain barrier in regards to that.[/QUOTE]

    Holey, as in permeable?

    There might be a genetic test now, in place of blanket "not to collies".