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But if you are setting up for the long-term, knowing a 40-amp line will be enough for decades makes the capacity choice easier.

 

Actually, I did. I was just being polite by not bringing up the topic of "want" because the "need" should go without saying. Heck, we know that the included L1 charger can pull off an overnight recharge.

Keep in mind, the quick partial recharge for running short errands is handy already, at 3.6 kW. When you only need a few miles to reach the local store, it's really nice...

 

Good people can agree to disagree. My background suggests the incremental costs of the car based, 6.6 kW to 10 kW is trivial. Gaining 3.4 / 6.6 = ~52 % improves L2 charging speed and pays off during the +10 years of operation.

Bob Wilson

 

So does the Spark Ev and Bolt. The amount of change from the Trax platform the Bolt was based on was enough that GM felt they could call it a new platform. They started with the Trax, because SUVs have more space to play with for these batteries. The C-HR EV and Rav4 Prime get underfloor packs, but the Prius Prime did not, which would have solved lots issues with the car's packaging.

For longer range EVs, Toyota is working with Subaru on an all new platform.

 

No one has to use all 10 kW. In the summer, I use Time of Day charging to wait until after midnight. This reduces the heat stress on the car and the grid voltage float is higher. But I've also set my charging current to 27 A when on a NEMA 14-30, 30 A circuit to reduce the risk of tripping the circuit breaker.

A higher capacity, built-in charger can be operated at lower power levels to match the feed circuit. But a lower capacity charger can never be set higher. The incremental cost of a 10 kW charger is trivial or rather the savings from a smaller capacity charger is nothing compared to lost human time waiting for a charge.

Bob Wilson

 

When charge time is the issue, a DC charger is going to be used, and the charger on the car is irrelevant.

 

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I was gona say Mitsu Outlander does above 10K - but that's using its Chademo port ... & very few plugin's have one at home

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Dynamic Force 2.0 and 2.5 are D4S, and since this 1.5 is derived from, I bet it will be both DI/PI.

Missed the bottom of this. My fault, I couldn't translate.
14million hybrids must have been sold on another planet?

 

If it was then it would produce 3/4 the power of the 2.0 engine, that would mean 80 kW, but it produces only 67 kW.
2.0 and 2.5 engines are rated as 41% efficient in hybrid application. Prius 1.8 and this new 1.5 engines are rated 40% efficient.

 

But the 1.8 produces 71kw, using the sabe output per displacement, the new 1.5 would get only to 59kw by the same logic. But...

I guess you are right!
Toyota dynamic force engines - Wikipedia

This Yaris 1.5 engine is FXE, not FXS like the Camry, etc.

 

apparently, because toyota thinks they need government incentives to make them successful

 

If Larry was being honest when he spoke about technology neutral solutions, he would be calling for incentives based a car's CO2 emissions or fuel economy. The Mazda3 with SkyActiv-X gets 52.3mpg and 96g/km CO2 emissions on the WLTP. The EPA could be 47mpg without any traction battery at all. ICE cars, diesel and gas, are getting more efficient, so why exclude them if buying them would mean lower emissions. People might choose sedans and hatchbacks over SUVs with an incentive, and those emit less for the same size.

Or call for a carbon tax. Having to pay more will get people to change behavior faster than getting a discount on purchase made every few years or so.

Of course, tech neutral incentives for carbon emissions would exclude some Toyota hybrids, and a carbon tax would hurt the majority of Toyota's models.

Toyota is just jealous of missing out on government funds. If they were serious about emissions, they would have started spreading hybrid tech out to other models sooner, maybe even have some hybrid only. They could adjust the prices of ICE and hybrid models so that they are closer. Lincoln had the same price for the base ICE and hybrid for their sedan, and its hybrid had some of the highest take rate at the time; higher than the Camry's.

 

I’m just excited it’s a three banger, we don’t get enough of those over here.

 

Yeah but in reality we get told we are cheapskates and need to spend hundreds extra on title/registration tax
because we don’t burn enough gas.