C-HR Hybrid

We have the C-HR here in Australia - it actually one of the worst designs TOYOTA (or anyone) has come up with. It's really a 2 seater only, but 5 door hatchback. The back-seat has absolutely no visibility out. The YARIS, despite being a much older design is far more practical.



It's got better front seats than a PRIUS, and apparently a good drive - but I didn't bother driving it - no way I'd put grandchildren in the back seat without vomit bags supplied..

We don't get the HYBRID though. It's been out for a couple of years - but we rarely see them around.

 

A refresh is out, with additional more powerful 180 HP hybrid option (same as Lexus UX), I would think this would be an interesting option for US market. But so far no word about it.

 

Yes, LEXUS UX did a much better job of the back seat - not real good, but better than C-HR. But the LEXUS seems to have reduced the boot space with a higher floor - though I've not seen the 2 side by side.

 

UX has e-four option maybe that is why the raised boot space.

 

Maybe - it's also here as an AWD Hybrid - but I didn't check to see whether that affects boot space.

Talking about LEXUS, I'm waiting to see the new NX - should be based on the new RAV4. But nothing has been mentioned on it yet.

 

Outside of the USA they use different, and oftentimes excessively optimistic "driving cycles" to measure the fuel efficiency. I recall when driving in the UK I could never get near the published NEDC figures (20% lower mpg typically). The US EPA cycle is more realistic; this corroborated by my personal experience and by what data is available on Fuelly.

Also, when they report mpg's outside of the US they may be using imperial gallons, which are 4.5 liters vs. the 3.8 liters (US gallon), so this could make the mpg figures look higher, too. Knowing that the Prius pushes out 50-55 mpg and the new RAV4 Hybrid around 35-40, the CHR should be showing about 45 mpg (US) avg., or 5.3-5.4 L/100 kM.

 

Posted this elsewhere.
Here's How To Calculate Conflicting EV Range Test Cycles: EPA, WLTP, NEDC
To get a rough estimate of EPA from NEDC, divide by 1.43.
Europe and other places are moving to the WLTP test, which has more realistic results. Divide those values by 1.12 for an EPA estimate.