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Featured Canadian Prime Sales > 80% of Total Prius Sales

Discussion in 'Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News' started by Tideland Prius, Oct 5, 2019.

  1. Tideland Prius

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    (Emphasis my own in the quote)

    Total Prius sales is 930 last month, Prime accounted for 769 of those or 82.6%
     
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    are you folks getting better deals on prime than lift back after tax credits like us?
     
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    The 2020 Prime is "base" model I think? The two 2019 Prius are both AWD, both Tech, and yet about 2 grand difference, not sure what's up with that. Canadian dollars.
     
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    Is that the looney or the tuney :whistle:?

    It’s all play money to us below the 49th parallel (y).
     
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    i would take some to play with (y)
     
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    You should have enough saved up to go play with ;).

    I always liked gambling at Niagra Falls as the exchange rate just made for some great fun (y).
     
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    Well for one, it’s a tax rebate not credit (you pay taxes on your pay stub so your pay stub is your net pay).

    So the cash is upfront. You take the MSRP, add PDI, fees and taxes then subtract the tax rebate to get the OTD price.

    For Quebec, I think the rebate on the Prime (fed+prov) is around $6k. In BC, it’s $4k and elsewhere it’s $2,500. On the base price of each, it’s not much more to jump from a base Prius to a Prime.

    One is a base Technology trim level. The other is the Technology with Advanced package.

    Base Tech AWD-e is $34,450. The advanced package adds $1,800. Plus $255 for the Blizzard Pearl.
     
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    TOYOTA Australia still have refused to bring in PRIME - but without subsidies a 5 door PRIME isn't likely to boost PRIUS numbers much - maybe a few early adopters or PRIUS owners.
     
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    So you're thinking one of the (pictured) Prius AWD has the advanced package, just inferring from the price bump. Not clear in the ad, but yeah that has to be it.
     
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    Crikey! Wonder why...

    I imagine they would most likely sell it under the “Prius PHV” badge, since “Prius Prime” is a North American name...
     
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    They're still ramping up Hybrids. Supply is still an issue - RAV4 has been out for a few months now, and hybrid RAVs are still not to be seen in dealerships (demos, not for sale generally) - about 3-6 months from order date is what they're telling us. Corolla has had supply issues with some hybrids too. PRIUS is basically a non-event here now, priced out of the market. When I bought Samantha, it was similar price to a fully "loaded" equivalent sized hatch - but today, they've come down relatively in price, with more equipment than PRIUS had 3½ years ago.

    And, with no subsidies, PRIME is likely to cost another $5,000 than PRIUS which is expensive anyway ($40,023 driveaway for the base model, $48,143 for iTech model). Add $5000 to those prices, and you're getting into lower Prestige car classes. SUVs are king here nowdays, as well as lumping-big twin-cab trucks - for some strange reason, a hatch or wagon makes a better car.

    Maybe when they've saturated the Hybrid demand, they might sneak PRIME in - but as I say, at the price, I can't see them making much impact. Additionally, with our very expensive electricity, there's little attraction from a $$$ perspective.
     
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    What are gas (petrol) prices like nowadays? Admittedly, I’ve only been to Australia (the Sydney vicinity — Camden) once, back in the late 80s.
     
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    @alanclarkeau all your prices are in US dollars? I suspect yes.
     
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    That's correct. I'm inferring based on the price difference. If you subtract the difference in the original prices ($36,790 and $34,735), there's a $2,055 difference. $255 of that is the Blizzard Pearl and $1,800 of that is the Advanced Package.

    Now how they arrived at those numbers is a different story.

    Tech AWD-e: $33,3450
    Tech AWD-e w/ Advanced Package & Blizzard Pearl: $35,505

    Freight/PDI is $1,745.

    So, how did they arrive at those numbers that are in between MSRP and MSRP + Freight/PDI?

    The base Prime is close but off by $100 ($32,990+$1,745=$34,735 vs. the $34,635 that's originally listed in grey font)
     
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    Those buggers did some fancy footwork with the documentation charge with us: first print out said "included", second was something like $290. I raised heck.

    Maybe something like that, or wheel locks, whatever.
     
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    No - Aussie Dollars - I don't think my dealer would appreciate it if I fronted up with United States Dollars - or €€ or ££.
     
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    $1.70/litre for 91 RON yesterday.
     
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    Wow, looks to be around US$4.40 per US gallon! Here in Austin TX, we’re currently seeing around $2.40/gallon.

    Household electricity in our case runs somewhere around 13c per KWh. It’s a tiered system, so the more you use, the higher the rate you pay. So, right now in particular it’s probably cumulatively a little more — perhaps 16c/KWh or so — since we’re running the house air conditioner quite a bit. But considerably less in the Winter.

    Driving our ‘Prime on gas runs somewhere around 4c/mile. Charging from home runs around 2.5c/mile. Austin Energy has an awesome “Plug In EVerywhere” program where, for about $1/week, we can charge all we want around town, including at my workplace. Charging thus, it works out to around 1/3 to 1/2 a cent per mile. And even better, not wearing down the engine. Yeehah!
     
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    Yup, plus Toyota Canada slashed the financing rates recently as well. They were advertising 3.99 or 4.49% for 60mo financing since the 2020 came out, but they just chopped it to 1.49%. Nice.
     
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    Electricity is between 19.25 to 32.91 cents per kWh (time of day) - there might be cheaper plans around - but they often have higher daily connection fees.
     
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