Featured 1,000,000 e-rickshaws in India and more BEVs to come

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Just saw an article in the phone feed about India actually dialing back on EV incentives in general. There is a concern that shifting to EV's too rapidly will hurt local ICE industry and thus jobs.

Hybrids and EVs do seem popular there already. A few years ago, 90% of Camry sales in India were hybrids.

 

Thanks for the post Robert and good call Hill
I searched duckduckgo.org / ddg.gg and got this link to the article
Inside India’s Messy Electric Vehicle Revolution - The New York Times

I think it also shows why other parts of the world might be more willing to shell out the extra cash for
fuel cell technology than we are here in the US.

ddg.gg toyota to supply hydrogen fuel cells to

or do some research into what fuel xpaceX uses to get into orbit. irony?

edit: looks like the OP link is the same as my link above and I can see the entire article without a NYT subscript.

 

you mean like Tata motors?

iduno .... with so many impoverished - it seems they got bigger issues than supplanting gas Motors;

India's most notorious kidney-transplant racketeer
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NYT allows free viewing of X number of articles a month.

SpaceX uses kerosene/liquid oxygen(LOX), methane/LOX, or monomethyl hydrazine and nitrogen tetroxide. I have suggested hydrazine for FECV fuel, but I don't expect it to have strong support. SpaceX rocket engines - Wikipedia
Neat, they are trying out a less toxic hydroxyl ammonium nitrate fuel/oxidizer mix. 'Green' Fuel Will Make Its Spaceflight Debut After SpaceX Falcon Heavy Launch | Space

Hydrogen was a popular fuel for upper rocket stages. While not as bad as for cars, hydrogen's low volumetric energy density was still a con. It was the reason why the space shuttle's fuel tank was so big.

India has plans for giga-sized battery factories. Hydrogen FCEVs are seen as having a shot, if battery supplies can't meet EV demand. Fuel Cell EVs Could Become a Complementing Tech in India: KPMG
But India is now slowing down their phase out of ICEs(below).

The EV incentive they are thinking of slowing are decentives for ICEs. They general slow down of car sales might be hitting them hard.
India might put a brake on EV push as its auto sector takes a hit – KrASIA

 

ramping the grid is another issue, at least in my mind without any stats backing me up.
I believe that if all the gasers were replaced by BEV tomorrow the power infrastructure would be disabled immediately

if not sooner. ymmv

 

A central A/C unit for a house can draw 27kWh to 45kWh during the day of the hotter seasons. The majority of plug in charging will be at night. If a Model 3 draws as much as the A/C did, it is being driven 135 to 225 miles a day.

While there might be local issues, the grid can already supply the power for plug ins. Perhaps day time charging can be an issue, but the switch won't be overnight. And really, EV growth fast enough to be a problem for the grid is a good problem to have.

 

except during gray brown and black outs
How many gassers are on the road? How many miles do they roll daily?
Someone should be able to do the matfs....

 

214 billion kWh was used for cooling US homes in 2018.
How is electricity used in U.S. homes? - FAQ - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)
Enough to charge 1 trillion miles on a Model 3.
Cars are driven about 3.2 trillion miles annually in the US.
Moving 12-Month Total Vehicle Miles Traveled (M12MTVUSM227NFWA) | FRED | St. Louis Fed

The more important detail is that plug ins won't be replacing other cars overnight.

Since the Leaf and Volt arrived, and through July 2019, about 1.3 million plug is have been sold in the US.
They are part of the 276 million cars that are driven those trillions of miles. Even if everyone wanted to switch to a plug in tomorrow, there is not enough plug ins available for them to do so. At 15k miles a year, we would need 67 million Model 3s, nearly a quarter of the cars on US roads, to cover a trillion miles. We aren't even at 500k plug in sales a year yet, and it doesn't look we'll reach it this year. Forecasts have the total sold at 15 million by 2028.
EV Sales Forecasts – EVAdoption

So there is time to build electricity capacity and the grid to support EVs. Only neglectful power companies will be caught unaware by plug ins.

 

Thanks for grabbing the published raw data.
Although I'm not quite sure how to interpret this page at FRED ( not fred's house of pancakes)
Figure 1 - Moving 12-Month Total on All Highways - June 2019 - Policy | Federal Highway Administration
looks like they are saying 3+ tril a month
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Jan-19 3,226
Feb-19 3,225
Mar-19 3,226
Apr-19 3,233
May-19 3,236
Jun-19 3,235

could be combined leisure/commercial?

find the link I posted above in the notes section of FRED page

Moving 12-Month Total Vehicle Miles Traveled (M12MTVUSM227NFWA) | FRED | St. Louis Fed
Source: U.S. Federal Highway Administration Release: Travel Volume Trends

 

I’m fresh back from China. From what I saw there, e-bikes have totally replaced human powered bikes.

I did see some EV cars, but it felt like the same proportion I’d see in St. Louis or Charlotte.

The two coolest electric things I saw were the BEV city buses and the Maglev train.

When I was in India 3 years ago I did not notice any EVs at all. I hired several pedal-powered ricks, some ICE-powered tuktuks and ordinary cabs over the course of that trip.

 

It is isn't a monthly value. It is a moving twelve month total. The miles listed March, 2019 are the miles driven in that month, plus the 11 preceding months.

 

didn't have to go that far. We had the Model X up in Utah a year ago & gave a hearty nod to these bad boys;


It made me wonder what the kwh per person would be if the bus were full.
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San Fran has had overhead electrified buses since ? I rode a few in the early part of this century. 2001 and 2002
We all know?, I realize how different San Fran is from the rest of the US though.

 

Source: A review of 20 Years’ Air Pollution Control in Beijing | UNEP

In 1998, Beijing began an intensified air pollution control programme, and over the last 20 years the city has implemented a series of measures including energy infrastructure optimization, coal-fired pollution control and vehicle emission controls. These efforts successfully reduced air pollution. In the five years from 2013 to 2017, fine particulate pollution (PM2.5) in Beijing fell by 35% and by 25% in surrounding regions. This report outlines how Beijing’s air quality management programme has evolved over the past quarter century and makes recommendations for near, medium, and long-term steps that Beijing can take to maintain its momentum toward clean air.
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Bob Wilson

 

There's a gen 2 Prius there with an installed armature taking advantage of those wires.
A city is Europe is testing a rail based one for cars.

 

That's got to be a sight to behold, even better to ride in and get the skinny about the car from the driver.