1. Attachments are working again! Check out this thread for more details and to report any other bugs.

My prime does not stop charging when the departure time is reached

Discussion in 'Prime Plug-in Charging' started by Pattiwagen, Aug 19, 2018.

  1. Pattiwagen

    Pattiwagen New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2018
    1
    0
    0
    Location:
    san diego
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Plug-in Advanced
    I am retired and am home during the day. Our electricity is on a tiered rate with the maximum rate from 4PM to 9PM. I set up my charging schedule to depart at 4PM and start charging at 10PM. I discovered that the charging does not stop at 4. If I remove the charging cable and re-insert it, it does not start until 10. I did open the car door to see that the departure time was set, and it said so, When I opened it again, there did not show a departure time. Does opening the door cancel the departure time?
     
  2. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    110,129
    50,046
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    welcome!
    not sure on the prime, but on the pip, you cannot use a start time and finish time. pick one or the other.
     
    bill188 likes this.
  3. CharlesH

    CharlesH CA HOV Decal #5 on former PiP

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2005
    2,788
    1,153
    0
    Location:
    Roseville, CA
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Prime Advanced
    The Prime is the same as the PIP. There is only one timer. It is NOT like an old VCR timer where you set both a start and stop time. Either you pick the departure time, and the system will guess when to start charging such that charging will be complete by the departure time, or you set the start time. If you attempt to set both, the one you set last is what is in effect. This has to be continually explained to new Pip/Prime users, since it is totally counter-intuitive, at least to North American users. Maybe it is different in Japan.
     
  4. mistermojorizin

    mistermojorizin Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2019
    310
    136
    0
    Location:
    usa
    Vehicle:
    2019 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Prime Advanced
    I was gonna post a new thread, but found this one. I want to set charging to stop at 3pm. I set departure time for 3pm. The prime is still charging past 3pm. Why doesn't charging stop at departure time?
     
  5. jb in NE

    jb in NE Senior Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2018
    2,233
    1,596
    0
    Location:
    Nebraska
    Vehicle:
    2018 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Prime Premium
    To stop precisely at the end time, the car needs to have a good estimate of both battery level and the time required to fully charge the battery. It's an estimate. At 3 pm, how much charge was in the battery?

    I find that if I set the charge complete time to 30 mins prior to when I want to leave, I don't have a problem. Car at 100% every time.
     
    mistermojorizin likes this.
  6. mistermojorizin

    mistermojorizin Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2019
    310
    136
    0
    Location:
    usa
    Vehicle:
    2019 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Prime Advanced
    So I just switched to the electric vehicle plan and I'm just starting to learn the charge event programming. Here's the situation, got home at 2pm with about 50% indicated SOC and I wanted to set the car to get as much charge as possible before 3pm (start of weekend peak hour). I don't necessarily need it to go to 100%, I just want it to stop at 3pm. So if I set it to stop at 230pm, will it stop charging even though it might not reach 100%?
     
  7. Raytheeagle

    Raytheeagle Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2016
    11,257
    15,491
    0
    Location:
    Bay Area, California
    Vehicle:
    2019 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Prime Plus
    Nope, but you can pull the charge plug and then drive off;).

    Easy and simple(y).
     
  8. mistermojorizin

    mistermojorizin Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2019
    310
    136
    0
    Location:
    usa
    Vehicle:
    2019 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Prime Advanced
    Fair enough. The issue is I'm not trying to drive off, I just want to get some charge in before peak hours and don't want to have to babysit the car.
     
    Raytheeagle likes this.
  9. Raytheeagle

    Raytheeagle Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2016
    11,257
    15,491
    0
    Location:
    Bay Area, California
    Vehicle:
    2019 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Prime Plus
    Then if you don’t have 220 volt connections, you’ll hit the peak rates;).

    Or set an alarm and unplug at 3 PM and then it won’t charge either:).

    Good luck and keep us posted (y).
     
    mistermojorizin likes this.
  10. mistermojorizin

    mistermojorizin Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2019
    310
    136
    0
    Location:
    usa
    Vehicle:
    2019 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Prime Advanced
    That is something I'm considering. Having a faster charger wouldn't guarantee that I don't hit peak either though with the way the software works. :p
     
    Raytheeagle likes this.
  11. jerrymildred

    jerrymildred Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2016
    11,518
    14,127
    0
    Location:
    Tampa, FL
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    I have not tested this theory and no one has said anything about if you don't plug it in soon enough for it to finish charging before the set departure time, will it keep on charging?

    In other words, if I come home at 4 PM with a depleted EV range and have the timer set to depart at 5 PM and plug it in immediately, will it stop at 5 PM or will it keep charging until either it finishes or I unplug it? I suspect it will keep charging.

    Either way, I typically have my departure time set for about 1/2 hour before I plan to leave in case the car takes longer than expected to charge the battery. It almost always finishes before the programmed time, but hot weather can slow the charging.
     
  12. Tideland Prius

    Tideland Prius Moderator of the North
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2004
    45,024
    16,242
    41
    Location:
    Canada
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    It’ll keep charging. I’ve had mornings where I left later than expected and I still got a full charge.
     
    jerrymildred and mistermojorizin like this.
  13. Mark57

    Mark57 2021 Tesla Model 3 LR AWD

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2009
    2,945
    2,737
    0
    Location:
    OK
    Vehicle:
    Other Electric Vehicle
    Model:
    N/A
    I have a departure time set for 4:30am and mine has NEVER run past the departure time for two years now. It's always plugged in more than 8 hrs before departure. That gives the car the time to accomplish what it's being asked to do.

    Right, it keeps on charging.
     
    jerrymildred and mistermojorizin like this.
  14. jerrymildred

    jerrymildred Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2016
    11,518
    14,127
    0
    Location:
    Tampa, FL
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    Just what I expected. Thanks for confirming it.
     
    Mark57 likes this.
  15. jb in NE

    jb in NE Senior Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2018
    2,233
    1,596
    0
    Location:
    Nebraska
    Vehicle:
    2018 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Prime Premium
    Another option if you have a home smart hub (and even if you don't). Install a receptacle that can be remotely switched, and set it to power off during peak periods. Then there is no way the car can charge during those periods.

    A smart switch would also work. This one is Zigbee, but others are available with WiFi control.

     
    Raytheeagle and mistermojorizin like this.
  16. mistermojorizin

    mistermojorizin Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2019
    310
    136
    0
    Location:
    usa
    Vehicle:
    2019 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Prime Advanced
    Yep, and I do have one and thinking about whether I want to use it or not. Concerned about using one for same reasons as using an extension cord.
     
  17. jb in NE

    jb in NE Senior Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2018
    2,233
    1,596
    0
    Location:
    Nebraska
    Vehicle:
    2018 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Prime Premium
    I would give it a try. If it works, use it. If it heats up, then avoid it.

    If you aren’t in a rush to charge (i.e. overnight is fine), you can reduce your charge rate to 8 amps.
     
    mistermojorizin likes this.
  18. Tha_Ape

    Tha_Ape Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2019
    271
    161
    0
    Location:
    Washington, DC
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Plug-in Advanced
    You can get an old school mechanical timer and plug it into that then set the car to start charging once it gets power
     
  19. PearlBlizzard

    PearlBlizzard Member

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2011
    75
    30
    0
    Location:
    So Cal
    Vehicle:
    2021 Prius Prime
    Model:
    LE
    Not sure why Toyota does not have an exception time period where it will not charge. Simple, better. It must be because the charging schedule department uses the same programmers who designed the poor infotainment system. No logic.

    Posted via the PriusChat mobile app.