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Can I plug into a type 2 ( Mennekes ) connector and charge safely

Discussion in 'Gen 1 Prius Plug-in 2012-2015' started by pokenoprius, Apr 30, 2019.

  1. pokenoprius

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    Hi everyone. If I were to acquire a Type II to type one cable , this would enable me to charge my plug-in at my local supermarket which only has type two connectors , ( these charging stations are known as rapid charge which I think supplies a higher amount of power ). These charge other brand ev’s at a much faster rate.

    My question is would this harm my car? I’m pretty sure the on-board charger would only charge at 2 kW ,( we use 240v mains ) , and that it would only take in 2 kW . I’m hoping it would not overload the charger ?




    Thanks again for your help
     

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    If the store has Type II chargers, their cables should fit and charge your Prius, regardless of the fact that only a Type I was supplied with the car.
     
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    Hi and thanks for your response , I believe the cables will physically fit to my car and the connector on the charger what I’m worried about is the actual supply of power. I’m reasonably confident that the extra supply of power from these fast chargers , won’t damage my cars built in charger and that the car will step the power down to what it actually needs. But not 100% confident about that .
     
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    I think the supply from the rapid chargers is DC .
     

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    From Takanini to Hampton Downs, the only chargepoints anywhere near Pokeno are all quick chargers, DC current - you can't charge your PiP from these at all.
    The Vodafone Events Centre seems to be the closest, is AC current, Type 2, so would work with a Type 2->Type 1 cable adapter, but you will never charge faster than the 10A the car's charger is designed for. A higher rated AC Type 2 supply will negotiate with your car to provide the maximum the car can take - you can't overload it.
     
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    Sweet, im thinking of the chargers at the airport countdown shopping car park . I’ll have a look and see if they are ac chargers. Thanks for the help :)
     
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    All DC quick charging at the airport.

    Get the Plugshare app for this kind of info....
     
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    It's a bit misleading for them to call any connectors at rapid/quick chargers "Type 2" when they are in fact CCS (which has extra bits).

    You need something with a normal Type 2 port, that accepts single-phase AC power. Your car will only draw as much power as it needs, just like how any domestic appliance works at home, e.g. an electric kettle (possibly up to 3 kW) will work fine on a socket that could also be used for some 5W USB charger.

    I don't know about NZ, but over here rapid chargers (primarily DC >25 kW and or three-phase AC >22 kW) usually have tethered cables, whereas "standard" AC chargers just have a socket and you need to provide your own cable. I bought a Type 1 to Type 2 cable for these.
     
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    My thinking is that quick chargers are Level 3 and would not physically fit the PIP. Level 2 chargers may offer more power, but the PIP will regulate that to what it can accept.
     
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    These "levels" aren't a thing in 220-240V countries :) They are usually described by their power and or current ratings.
    It's clear in the instructions in the attached screenshot that it's a rapid DC charger with CHAdeMO and CCS connections, but it misleadingly says "Type 2" in brackets referring to CCS when they're probably better off not saying that at all.
     
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