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Toyota aided 2019 Subaru Crosstrek PHEV

Discussion in 'Other Cars' started by Marine Ray, Apr 21, 2019.

  1. Marine Ray

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    Recent Motorweek 6min review of the Subaru Crosstrek PHEV. 8.8kwh battery+raised cargo area battery pack=Toyota/Subaru PHEV technology partnership we've heard about.


     
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    Oh man, I like it too much. It's not a mileage king like the Prime, but I bet it's fun to drive! (I've owned, and LOVED driving, Subaru's in the past.)
     
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    Again, why is this posted in the Prime forum?
     
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    Does this really matter? It seems to share parts with the Prius prime (eg same battery capacity), so prime owners may find the review interesting.

    On a separate note, I wonder what toyota’s motivation is. Maybe they want higher volume production on those battery packs to drive down cost.
     
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    Has anyone actually seen one of these cars? I want one, but the local dealer has no info. Seems like vaporware.
     
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    The Subaru site says limited availability, so that probably means California only.

    I wish they'd do a version of the Outback like this, it would be hard for me to pass up. :)
     
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    this practically is a version of the Outback. The Crosstrek is very close to the dimensions of the 'classic' 1996-2009 Outback. That's a lot of why I want one.

    It would be a little inconvenient flying to California to get one, but it's not out of the question.
     
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    No stock in my area Subaru dealers. Last time asked about it earlier this year, the sales mgr said I have to place a regular order in quickly to secure one, meaning the price will be at least MSRP. I have a feeling they may even try to sell it above MSRP. No crazy deals like PRIME even in New England.
     
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    Give it few months. Although by then we'll probably see ''special offers" on Teslas 3 too...
     
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    Just like the 2019 Rav4 Hybrid. MSRP or more, that will change as inventory builds.

    With the likes of Costco, Sam's Club and Consumer Reports buying service you can still find some deals as dealers want to make quota. Even on new models.

    Love to see the Subaru with the Toyota power train!


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    Try cars.com to find the closest to you.
     
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    Toyota is one of Subaru's major stockholders. As an owner, it is in Toyota's financial interests to have Subaru do well. When that means just handing them some great technology, ...
     
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    Look at it this way, it's a way for Toyota to ship more pluggy-car parts without it counting against the USA federal tax credit under the Toyota name.
     
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    You mean the Outback Sport (or Imprezza Outback)? That's the last Subaru I owned, great car. I thought the Crosstek was more like a small SUV.
     
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    Correct. Toyota is the #1 stockholder in Subaru by %. Source: Stock Information | Subaru Corporation Untitled.png
     
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    same raised hatch floor? i wonder what suburb actually contributed
     
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    Thanks. In case anyone is interested I found this related article on keiretsu, basically a group of companies with of interlocking investments that is unique to Japanese business: Keiretsu - Wikipedia
     
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    Cool. Those banks like to invest other people's money :)
     
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    Financial alliance maybe, but I would not consider Toyota and Subaru to be a keiretsu in traditional sense. Those two companies have very distinctive histories of their own.
     
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  20. Leadfoot J. McCoalroller

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    No, I mean the Legacy-based Outback. The current Impreza (and its Crosstrek variant) are just about the same size as the older Outback. The only real difference is length (and therefore cargo space) behind the rear seat.

    In 2010 the Legacy & Outback also grew up a size, now they are considerably larger than the classic models.
     
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