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Prius Prime Plus in my hands

Discussion in 'Prime Main Forum (2017-2022)' started by bwilson4web, Jan 19, 2017.

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  1. coach81

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    Appreciate this info. Note to self- If I purchase a prime.. charge in the wee hours of the cool mornings!
     
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  2. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    Time to make a table:
    Date kWh hh:mm:ss
    1 10/11/2018 5.636 1:44:42
    2 10/12/2018 5.812 1:49:17
    3 10/13/2018 5.667 1:45:40
    4 10/15/2018 5.658 1:45:26

    Bob Wilson
     
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    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    Date kWh hh:mm:ss
    1 10/11/2018 5.636 1:44:42
    2 10/12/2018 5.812 1:49:17
    3 10/13/2018 5.667 1:45:40
    4 10/15/2018 5.658 1:45:26
    5 10/17/2018 5.779 1:49:10

    It looks like if I have any ICE operation and switch back to EV, there is a net increase in the added charge. Not huge but visible in the data. If I time it right to EV the whole time and arrive at "--", I get a smaller net charge.

    Bob Wilson
     
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  4. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    Date kWh hh:mm:ss
    1 10/11/2018 5.636 1:44:42
    2 10/12/2018 5.812 1:49:17
    3 10/13/2018 5.667 1:45:40
    4 10/15/2018 5.658 1:45:26
    5 10/17/2018 5.779 1:49:10
    6 10/18/2018 5.592 1:44:44

    It looks like if I have any ICE operation and switch back to EV, there is a net increase in the added charge. Not huge but visible in the data. If I time it right to EV the whole time and arrive at "--", I get a smaller net charge.

    Bob Wilson
     
    #584 bwilson4web, Oct 18, 2018
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    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    1 10/11/2018 5.636 1:44:42
    2 10/12/2018 5.812 1:49:17
    3 10/13/2018 5.667 1:45:40
    4 10/15/2018 5.658 1:45:26
    5 10/17/2018 5.779 1:49:10
    6 10/18/2018 5.592 1:44:44
    7 10/21/2018 5.790 1:48:50

    Confirmed, it looks like if I have any ICE operation and switch back to EV, there is a net increase in the added charge, ~155 Wh. Not huge but visible in the data. If I time it right to EV the whole time and arrive at "--", I get a smaller net charge.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    The Volt does something similar, if you run the ICe mid trip to the point it’s fully warmed up it allows you to dip deeper in the battery, especially at low <25 mph speeds

    Maybe time to disassemble the Prime can bus as has been done on the Volt to keep the motor off to the lower limit using an obdii and a cellular app?
     
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    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    [​IMG]
    • EV only - lower left group
    • EV+ICE - upper right, ~155 Wh, so you pay for some gas and extra electricity
    Bob Wilson
     
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    Interesting: I may have seen that effect too, now that you mention it. I’ll keep my eyes peeled for that.

    However, one related scenario where that didn’t seem to work:
    1. Got to work <0.3 miles on the guestimatron.
    2. Powered it up to go plug in, and it showed ~1.2 miles.
    3. Drove it around the block until he ICE kicked in.
    4. Plugged it in.
    I don’t remember the exact numbers, but it actually changed slightly fewer than the usual 5.7ish KWh, and the Guestimatron also show considerably fewer miles than usual — something like 25ish.
     
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    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    This morning, I was driving the dogs to the 'squirrel park' and forgot about the auto-engine start when: (1) temperature ~40 F; (2) SOC > 92%, and; (3) set cruise control. Sad to say, I was already on the limited access cross-town route. At my earliest opportunity, I pulled off, stopped, and power-on restart. The rest was an ordinary EV drive.

    The Prime Plus key fob enables warming when cold or cooling when hot without needing an iPhone App. The BMW requires using BMW Connect to do the same. But the BMW key fob will roll down the windows walking to the car, a nice hot weather option. Comparing the key fobs:
    • Prime - activate pre-conditioning for hot or cold weather
    • BMW i3 - roll windows down walking to car
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    The Prime key fob can be programmed at the dealer to roll down the windows

    Window remote.PNG
     
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    Carista (and possibly other apps) can change that setting as well. Funny enough they don’t seem to have a setting to roll the windows UP though. Miss that from my VW days.


    iPhone ?
     
    #592 2015BlizzardPriusFour, Nov 23, 2018
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  13. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    On Saturday, Nov 24, 2018:

    Home_base finished charging.
    Charging added 5.649 kWh in 1h 46m 38s.​

    Within the range of pure EV metrics.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    Got to use the tow eye-bolt. I'd visited a remote gunsmith and thought I could loop out the drive but damp Alabama mud had no traction to the front wheel. We had to cut down two small diameter trees and I put the eye-bolt in. He attached a chain and pulled the car back to the gravel drive. Problem solved.

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    #594 bwilson4web, Dec 21, 2018
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    I am starting to think that the Prime would benefit a lot of the AWD that now can be fitted on a regular Prius.
     
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    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    Very unlikely to happen. The AWD system was on the Prius from the beginning, it was part of the car during development. That wasn't likely done with the Prime and the extra weight of its battery. Then Toyota only equips the AWD Prius with a NiMH battery.
     
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    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    Got the grill shutter fix and a four wheel alignment:
    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

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    How was the rear camber adjusted, it's readily doable, without shims?

    Apologies if this was discussed earlier.
     
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    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    I know there are adjustments mentioned in the Toyota manuals for the Gen-3 but they looked to require special equipment. I was actually shocked when the service writer said they could do it. So I said yes.

    When I got home, I put that car in the 'Trade-in' for our Model 3. A couple of hours later, Tesla offered a very generous, $18,300. My curiosity about the Prius Prime has suddenly evaporated.

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    You getting one of the $35K model 3 cars?
     
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