I got a PIP!!

No need to warm up, the car is designed to just kick in when the ice is needed

You'll be less excited about the DRCC once you use it for a bit. In Socal, there's really no freeway to use it as most of our roads are gridlocked mornings and evenings

 

Well, actually... If you are fully charged and then go downhill, the ICE WILL "start", but only to spill power so the regen doesn't over-charge the battery. Happens to me quite often. But to answer your Q, just press the "HV/EV" button on the console to leave EV mode and the ICE will start. The PIP is designed to "preserve" the current battery charge for later when in HV mode.

 

Congratulations on your new PIP.....I dream of owning a PIP someday. 1st or 2nd generation.....I’d be happy with either


iPad ? Pro

 

Congratulations!! @JC91006 nailed it. The car will care for itself. The Prius is not fragile.

Feel free to experiment, but there's no harm in just leaving it in EV when you leave home. If the hill to the freeway is so big that it needs to bleed off regenerated electricity, it will do so on its own using the engine. That will force the same warmup routine as the hatchback.

When you get on the highway and punch it, the engine will start whether you're in EV or HV, but you'll probably get better gas mileage if you put it in HV just before or after you accelerate. (See note below.) The electric drive part of the system will help out the ICE while it's warming up. You can observe this (traffic permitting, of course) by watching your MPG bar and/or the remaining EV miles range. MPG will look crazy high for a while and EV range will drop even though you're in HV mode as the EV system loans power to the engine. Once the engine warms up, it'll repay the loan and you'll see the MPG bar look crazy low while the EV range goes back up to where it was before you switched from EV to HV. Then it will all level off.

The old adage, "just drive it" applies to the PiP just as much as the others. But you do have more options to play with if you want to.

(Note: You can drive in EV mode as fast as the car can go. But once you hit about 62-64 MPH in EV (lower if you're accelerating hard) the engine will run while the electric motor assists it. You'll see really nice MPG at 70 MPH in EV, but you'll also see your EV range dropping. When you put it into HV mode while in that situation, that range will be the new level that the system will center on as it uses and replaces battery energy.)

One more thing to be aware of and it's a bit of a disappointment. Once you use up the EV range, you can no longer select the EV mode with the button. If the engine is warm, you can drive EV by judicious use of the "go pedal," but if you push the EV button, it'll beep and tell you there's no EV available. The only way to get it back is to plug it in or find a big honkin' hill to coast down.

Enjoy! It's a fun car.

 

welcome to the pip club, is it base or advanced?

do you still have your c?

all the best!

 

He mentioned radar cruise control, so I'd guess advanced unless it can be added. Not sure about that.

 

Yes. Easy test is neutral. If not rolling free, check the caliper slide pins

 

Yes, normal. You can see the regeneration in the display on the dash. Press the throttle pedal just a little and get it to the line between charge and the big center area and you're pretty much free wheeling then. (Some people pop it into neutral, but I'm not a fan of that practice.) This regen is calculated to approximate the feel engine braking you would get from a regular car if you take your foot off the gas.


BTW, now that you have a PiP, you might want to update your profile info. It still says you have a Prius c.

 

No

 

The picture in my previous post is just a snip from the Toyota brochure of a Gen 3 to show you where to look. It wasn't even a PiP, but it shows what I wanted to illustrate.

We just have one big battery in the PiP. Once the remaining EV range gets down to about 0.6 miles the display changes to a full battery with more defined segments. This is just a zoomed in view of the bottom portion of the battery state of charge (SOC) which you're now using. This way, once the EV range is used up, you can see more clearly what the SOC is within that HV only region. If it kept showing the full battery scale, the changes would be too small to see. Hope that makes sense.

 

I lived less than 1 mile from the 70+ mph with my PiP. Never bothered to warm up, since I was able to confirm just how well thought out the system really is. Toyota went out of their way to ensure the battery protected the engine. It's pretty easy to see for yourself. I captured a number of my drives.

Watch how RPM is held low by the electric side while the engine is warming up.

btw, if you have a downhill drive from your house that will always force some charge into the battery-pack, buy a charger that will allow you to set a lower "full" limit. JuiceBox Pro is one example, which is what I have.

 

OP, how steep is that 2 mile "down hill"? If it is gradual and you aren't regenerating, then you are fine starting with the full charge. If it is hitting regen from the get-go then you may want to find another option. Depending which direction I go when I leave my house I have a very steep down hill for about 200 yards after first driving about that distance on the level. The ICE then kicks in about half-way down the steep hill because of being over-charged. So, if I am going that route I put it into N just before I think the ICE will come on and use the mechanical brakes to slow down. Oh, the problematic piece is that there is a four-way stop at the bottom of that short hill. Just imagine how much more efficient the world would be if all civil engineers were PIP drivers! No stop signs at the bottom of a hill.

 

For that particular video in the previous message, I used a generic OBD-II bluetooth reader along with the "Torque Pro" app to collect the raw data. Then I pushed that data through some software to render video... which got quite involved.

Nowadays, it's way easier to just use the "Hybrid Assistant" app instead.